*Official* India v England T20 International series in Ahmedabad

[karan_fromthestands]

yeah we should plan for dew at least 6 months away for a wc that might not even happen

Well, that's better than not getting any practice in those conditions. We should certainly look to avoid something like this even if we need to start practicing a year earlier.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...t-indies-2nd-semi-final-951371/full-scorecard

 

[sunilz]

We have a very good T20 record since 2019 WC. Our problem is that our Captain is a Panauti who loses important toss and makes numerous selection mistakes and takes wrong decisions in crunch situations.

 

[honestbharani]

One under rated aspect of IPL is also the fact that so many of these players play with each other in different teams now. For example, Shardul plays with Deepak Chahar and Jadeja in CSK, but he also plays with SKY, Shreyas and Rohit for Mumbai, so there are so many more avenues for these players to already be used to playing with each other, which is very important, I feel, the shorter the game becomes, as it becomes more about role-playing than just innate cricket abilities.

 

[prashan]

We have a very good T20 record since 2019 WC. Our problem is that our Captain is a Panauti who loses important toss and makes numerical selection mistakes and takes wrong decisions in crunch situations.

good try.. Keep hating... But no use... Sad ?

 

[prashan]

ro ipl form is important... Not in touch with bat... Iyer/ sky /ishan only 1 player in wt20 ... Tight competition... ?

 

[artvandalay]

India looks like a weak white ball team.

We are not a weak white ball team, we play at 50% of how well we should normally play because of the wrong tactics, approach and team selection. That doesn't look like it will change until a few guys retire or move on and we press the reset button like England did after 2015.

Not that it's scientific or anything but I refuse to believe that we would have won yday with Kohli out there, you'll have to convince me otherwise after it looked like England might canter home with 5 overs to go.

 

[Jayro]

There is an unmistaken hunger which develops when you are kept bereft of something you covet and deserve for a very long time - it was blatantly displayed in SKY's batting yesterday.

 

[honestbharani]

We are not a weak white ball team, we play at 50% of how well we should normally play because of the wrong tactics, approach and team selection. That doesn't look like it will change until a few guys retire or move on and we press the reset button like England did after 2015.

Not that it's scientific or anything but I refuse to believe that we would have won yday with Kohli out there, you'll have to convince me otherwise after it looked like England might canter home with 5 overs to go.

Virat was the one who got Hardik to bowl with the new ball, which was as crucial in us being in that position as anything else.

Honestly, the fanboy-ism and hatred around Virat is both equally annoying and we seem to have exclusively the latter here these days. If I wanted to read that nonsense, I would look at YouTube comments or idiotic English cricket podcasts there.

Ajay Jadeja hit the nail on the head in the Cricbuzz post match Hindi show yesterday. Rohit and Rahane maybe tactically better in LO and 4/5 day formats respectively, but Virat is the best leader of this group of men India has. That is not about to change.

Best case scenario is he lets Rohit/Rahane call the more tactical passages of play while he continues to be the leader. And to be fair, he has been doing that often when he fields in the boundary in the slog overs of LO cricket. Earlier MSD used to take charge, now Rohit does. And it was not like it was some strategic masterpiece to get Shardul bowl the 17th given he was the only one with 2 overs left to bowl. The idiocy of the hate-boyzzz is as stupid as the idiocy of the fanboyzzz.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

If India would have been 2-2 going into the fifth and decider in London in an away t 20 series, this 2:2 result would be gloated huge!! But it is a shame in home conditions. England or Great Britain or however they wish to be called (they banned me for a couple weeks calling them Brits) have done really well.

Of course they have. Wood and Archer have been too good. Plus their batting lineup is explosive, their number 8 and 9 are also capable of hitting a few sixes. They have all their bases covered.

India will look much stonger once Bumrah and Jadeja are in. Also, the team will look even strong if Ash is considered for white ball cricket.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

We are not a weak white ball team, we play at 50% of how well we should normally play because of the wrong tactics, approach and team selection. That doesn't look like it will change until a few guys retire or move on and we press the reset button like England did after 2015.

Not that it's scientific or anything but I refuse to believe that we would have won yday with Kohli out there, you'll have to convince me otherwise after it looked like England might canter home with 5 overs to go.

I don't really rate Kohli that much as a captain, although he did well yesterday. But with regards to selection, I completely agree with you. There have been way too many blunders. We have a nice pool of players and the best players should be selected and given enough opportunities to perform.

Take SKY's example, the batting coach had said that this series will decide who plays the T20 WC. And after being ignored for so long(should have been selected a lot earlier), Yadav had to wait till the 4th game to get a chance to bat, if he would have failed yesterday, that would have been very hard on him. Again, these kind of things can be handled a little better.

 

[artvandalay]

Virat was the one who got Hardik to bowl with the new ball, which was as crucial in us being in that position as anything else.

Honestly, the fanboy-ism and hatred around Virat is both equally annoying and we seem to have exclusively the latter here these days. If I wanted to read that nonsense, I would look at YouTube comments or idiotic English cricket podcasts there.

Ajay Jadeja hit the nail on the head in the Cricbuzz post match Hindi show yesterday. Rohit and Rahane maybe tactically better in LO and 4/5 day formats respectively, but Virat is the best leader of this group of men India has. That is not about to change.

Best case scenario is he lets Rohit/Rahane call the more tactical passages of play while he continues to be the leader. And to be fair, he has been doing that often when he fields in the boundary in the slog overs of LO cricket. Earlier MSD used to take charge, now Rohit does. And it was not like it was some strategic masterpiece to get Shardul bowl the 17th given he was the only one with 2 overs left to bowl. The idiocy of the hate-boyzzz is as stupid as the idiocy of the fanboyzzz.

if you are going to credit Virat for bowling Pandya first up there are a lot of things you can use against him in that period until he went off, just saying. The general point isn't purely about tactical choices anyway.
This doesn't have to be a deeply polarising discussion to react the way you are where it's a binary situation.. Kohli's captaincy in general isn't exactly unimpeachable that you need to compare people critiquing him to reading youtube comments. That last line of yours is perhaps part of the problem, this whole force of personality dimension to him perhaps isn't always in the team's best interests when he's leading. And sadly yes, it will not change until he himself decides it needs to probably.

 

[honestbharani]

This doesn't have to be a deeply polarising discussion to react the way you are where it's a binary situation..

Lol.. I am not the one doing it. Entirety of reddit or twitter or general Indian cricket media and social media who are doing it. I was just pointing out it was stupid that it is now prevalent in CW too.

And yes, you can debate ad nauseum on captaincy decisions and I bet I can show you a good move for every bad move you call too, which was basically the point of my post, as it was a response to the stupider posts on his captaincy in this very thread.

 

[sunilz]

Lol.. I am not the one doing it. Entirety of reddit or twitter or general Indian cricket media and social media who are doing it. I was just pointing out it was stupid that it is now prevalent in CW too.

And yes, you can debate ad nauseum on captaincy decisions and I bet I can show you a good move for every bad move you call too, which was basically the point of my post, as it was a response to the stupider posts on his captaincy in this very thread.

How many tournaments has Kohli won as a captain?

 

[honestbharani]

How many tournaments has Kohli won as a captain?

Yes, captaincy is only about winning trophies.

 

[Jayro]

Speaking of captaincy Virat has been found wanted more often than not,he is a great batsman there can't be a doubt about that, he is one in a generation sort of a batsman that probably arrives only once in twenty years for a team like India- there was Gavaskar then there was Tendulkar now there is Kohli everybody knows it, but his team selection has been shoddy to say the least, his mistakes have costed India take for example what happened in 2018 test series against England, also one wonders had he remained in Australia as a captain India would have won it despite of what a fantastic asset he has been as a batsman. 

 

[sunilz]

Yes, captaincy is only about winning trophies.

Captaincy is all about shouting MC/BC when opposition team player gets out.?

 

[honestbharani]

Captaincy is all about shouting MC/BC when opposition team player gets out.?

Or about chucking in Vadapav when team is reeling.

 

[sunilz]

Or about chucking in Vadapav when team is reeling.

Who doesn't like Vada Pav ? ?

 

[honestbharani]

Who doesn't like Vada Pav ? ?

Teammates.

 

[Starfighter]

I must say, I'm surprised to see that pressing the ball into the ground with the heel of the hand is now defined as a catch.