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*Official* Pakistan in New Zealand 2020/21

thierry henry

International Coach
Isnt Sumo just trying to appeal to the ACC crowd? Says some of the dumb **** he trots out on there like getting excited about big pink worms and 69, with that annoying faux Graeme Hughes voice.

And I’m not having a go at ACC, it has a place and I’m a gigantic Jeremy Wells fan. Test cricket on the host broadcaster is not that place
nah it’s definitely also the stuff I said which is quite distinct from the full-on bro culture of the ACC, but you probably have to see the guy across different social media channels (and his Rugby Onion commentary) to get the full vibe
 

thierry henry

International Coach
The beauty of Watling is that yeah he’s a nuggety keeper who bats 7 and is strong off the back foot, but really, in terms of mentality and technique, he’s more like a slightly below-par opener batting at 7. No glaring technical or mental issues to exploit which must make him so demoralising to bowl to. Actually struggling to think of someone comparable.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Errrr how is ACC bro commentary? Those guys are genuinely funny and I kinda see them as outsider artists really. Not really NZ bro culture to me.

Stevenson is nothing like the ACC.
Again, I’m exposed to them more through social media than the actual commentary, and to me that’s very ‘contemporary bro’ or ‘I’m-kinda-smart-bro’. That’s my point though, maybe I’m talking about people who don’t know I’m talking about them.

And I’m pretty sure Sumo is literally an ACC-affiliate? But his persona is actually more ‘PC’ and imo less bro than them. But that’s individual perception I guess. I get how he could be seen as more bro.

Bro bro bro bro
 

jcas0167

International Regular
kinda sad

- "that feeling of accomplishment and success that you don't get outside of the game" - Rigor
- "that feeling of camaraderie after 5 days of cricket, you don't get that anywhere else" - Baz

Sorry guys but I reckon many, if not most of us get plenty of sense of success and accomplishment and camaraderie outside of hitting a red ball around a field. The reason you don't might have something to do with the fact that you're not actually doing anything meaningful after your sporting career. You made decent money, both of you. Plenty of opportunity to retrain in a field that would bring loads of accomplishment and camaraderie.
Kinda sad, but probably quite a common sentiment amongst former top sports people. No doubt they both still experience camaraderie and accomplishment post-cricket but it's going to be different.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Not-that-short version - there is a weird and very distinctive subculture of (with apologies for using
the ‘w’ word) ‘woke boofhead’ culture in NZ sport twitter. Sort of like a whole lot of PC Principal types
from South Park. Basically white guys in their 30s and 40s who embody every toxic masculine archetype but disguise it by trotting out the ‘right’ opinions all the time.

I know some of these guys irl, hyper-aggressive narcissist types, but they say women’s cricket is good on twitter so that makes it ok...

‘Sumo’ is like the patron saint of these guys. Smug know-nothing ****wit but he pronounces names correctly and tweets about feminism so he must be a good bloke.
I'm right here, TH!
 

Binkley

U19 Captain
I am wondering if I get so wound up by Stevenson because there is no-one in the team itself to wind me up? I mean, there has always been someone underperforming who I am annoyed at. But now Southee has suddenly become good with a white ball in hand, all I have left is a **** commentator who constantly misreads the action and talks all the time without actually having anything to say.
 

Flametree

International 12th Man
I'll be the heartless one - can we not just take the guy off the field and treat him there so we can get on with the game...
 

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