***Official*** English Football Season 2020-21

[GIMH]

A goal is generally a more precious currency than others though.

I've not got any stats to back me up but would suspect there are a lot more tries per game in Union than there are goals in footy.

This for me means they have to actually be scored. Especially with handball laws so open to scrutiny and debate these days.

 

[Furball]

Would be a nightmare to formulate any sort of coherent rule to this effect tbh, and this would almost certainly lead to disastrous interpretations and attempts to enforce it.

Even if this were possible though, we'd end up asking where to draw the line. If it were acceptable to award goals in situations where a goal would have been scored "but for" a defender punching the ball off the line, why not start awarding them in situations a goal would (probably) have been scored "but for" a defender hauling an attacker down as the last man?

I think it's pretty obvious where you'd draw a line in this case tbh.

 

[Jarquis]

A goal is generally a more precious currency than others though.

I've not got any stats to back me up but would suspect there are a lot more tries per game in Union than there are goals in footy.

This for me means they have to actually be scored. Especially with handball laws so open to scrutiny and debate these days.

Just means it needs to have a higher threshold than, the already very high one of, other sports

 

[Jarquis]

Rewatching it and the player in front of Suarez tries to do the same, lol.

i don’t really see how you can argue that a penalty was a better or fairer outcome in that situation. Goals mattering so much means it’s an even harder pill to swallow when for all intents and purposes you have scored one but the opposition cheats and instead you’re given a 74-80% chance of one

 

[sledger]

There's a difference between awarding penalty points as a direct consequence of foul play, and awarding a goal in situations where a goal could/should have been scored, but categorically was not scored imo.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Would be peak comedy if football now reintroduced "blatant deliberate handball" after the recent changes to force the rule into the VAR age of an objective criterion for handball.

 

[andruid]

Would be a nightmare to formulate any sort of coherent rule to this effect tbh, and this would almost certainly lead to disastrous interpretations and attempts to enforce it.

Even if this were possible though, we'd end up asking where to draw the line. If it were acceptable to award goals in situations where a goal would have been scored "but for" a defender punching the ball off the line, why not start awarding them in situations a goal would (probably) have been scored "but for" a defender hauling an attacker down as the last man?

Limit it to goal line incidents?

 

[sledger]

Limit it to goal line incidents?

Define "incident"

 

[GIMH]

an instance of something happening; an event or occurrence.

 

[sledger]

an instance of something happening; an event or occurrence.

Haha yes, exactly. Those definitely aren't words that allow for an incredibly broad spectrum of interpretation

 

[Furball]

Haha yes, exactly. Those definitely aren't words that allow for an incredibly broad spectrum of interpretation

Spot the ****ing lawyer.

 

[GIMH]

I hate the idea of a penalty goal though. Just feels wrong

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Penalty goals is a nonsense.
Klopp has decided he doesn't like VAR because although all three decisions that went against Liverpool were correct his brave soldiers were getting cold because it took so long to arrive at the decisions.

 

[Uppercut]

He probably hates it for the same reason the rest of us do - because it's a ****ing steaming pile of ****ing **** - but is too polite to phrase it that way.

 

[Furball]

I'm not convinced Minamino's goal being chalked off was correct.

 

[Furball]

He probably hates it for the same reason the rest of us do - because it's a ****ing steaming pile of ****ing **** - but is too polite to phrase it that way.

I think it's a good idea badly implemented. There's so much about it that just doesn't make sense.

Two really glaring things that stand out - aside from the well documented pile of shite that offsides and handballs have become - is that for some reason it's not used to overturn corners/goal kicks being given incorrectly, plus the way that offside is only reviewed if a goal is scored.

The offside thing is really stupid. If I receive the ball in an offside position and the linesman doesn't give it, if I go on to score or be fouled in the penalty box then it'll be reviewed. If I have a shot that gets saved by the goalie then it's a corner. Which could very well lead to a goal anyway.

 

[GIMH]

I absolutely loved the application of VAR at Watford away - but that was the kind of obvious stuff people would support it for. An offside given when it was a defender who played the ball back, and a penalty not given when Blackett-Taylor was poleaxed.

Every Saturday I see these stills with 17 coloured lines on and thank the lord above we don't have such nonsense in our tinpot division

 

[Uppercut]

I think it's a good idea badly implemented. There's so much about it that just doesn't make sense.

Two really glaring things that stand out - aside from the well documented pile of ****e that offsides and handballs have become - is that for some reason it's not used to overturn corners/goal kicks being given incorrectly, plus the way that offside is only reviewed if a goal is scored.

The offside thing is really stupid. If I receive the ball in an offside position and the linesman doesn't give it, if I go on to score or be fouled in the penalty box then it'll be reviewed. If I have a shot that gets saved by the goalie then it's a corner. Which could very well lead to a goal anyway.

Who could possibly have foreseen that FIFA, UEFA, and the FA would botch the implementation of something, eh.

 

[sledger]

All we can hope for is that its implementation is improved. It's clearly not going anywhere.

 

[grecian]

All we can hope for is that its implementation is improved. It's clearly not going anywhere.

Yeah, agree, in the end though as Uppercut says Football authorities predictably not really doing this. Tight offsides should get a couple of real-time looks from Var, if not obvious goal stands, handball is a tough one for me, I've always hated defenders that clearly deliberately use hands to block knowing that it won't be given, if it's anywhere near their body making a wall(maybe more prevalent in lower Leagues and terrible officiating), but clearly some that are given now are a joke.

Oh and there clearly needs to be a time limit, not for the brave soldiers but for the fans as it's ****ing boring, keep with original decision of decided time can't tell you. Or else they could do what sane sports do and allow the fans to hear and see the process, but they seem dead against that.