*Official* West Indies Tour of England 2020

[StephenZA]

Philander was not exactly terrible the last tour of Aus. You can do well in Aus without pace as a bowler. It is just that from an overall attack point of view you need at least one excellent fast bowler as well in Aus for when it does goes flat. Wood and Archer seem a bit redundant in the Eng attack when you have a player of Broads ability and Stokes around.

 

[Daemon]

Bit of a myth that you need express pace to succeed in Australia. Most of the bowlers who've been successful there aren't bowling 140+ every ball.

 

[Shri]

You just have to make sure that you visit when their best bat is banned

 

[trundler]

I'd wager that bouncy and accurate ones do best though of course if you're Dale Steyn levels of skilled at swinging the Kookaburra you can just do that instead

 

[Flem274*]

australia rewards hitting the deck hard, but if you dont or cant then huck it down at pace

 

[Burgey]

Bit of a myth that you need express pace to succeed in Australia. Most of the bowlers who've been successful there aren't bowling 140+ every ball.

It’s really not a myth at all tbh. Bounce helps a lot too tbf

 

[Spark]

Broad seems pretty pissed off with the decision to drop him and fair enough too. You'd hope that having almost 500 Test wickets and being the standout bowler in your team over the last year would protect you from horses-for-courses style selection.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Bit of a myth that you need express pace to succeed in Australia. Most of the bowlers who've been successful there aren't bowling 140+ every ball.

Who said that?

It's not about "need". It just works a lot better in Australia than it does in England, from my time at least.

 

[Burgey]

Broad seems pretty pissed off with the decision to drop him and fair enough too. You'd hope that having almost 500 Test wickets and being the standout bowler in your team over the last year would protect you from horses-for-courses style selection.

Yeah he’s well justified you’d think. Has to be a better bowler than Wood anywhere, let alone at home

 

[Stapel]

Not one English fielder looked convinced Brathwaite had knicked that with his bat, yet Stokes went upstairs. Or do I read those faces differently?

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Broad seems pretty pissed off with the decision to drop him and fair enough too. You'd hope that having almost 500 Test wickets and being the standout bowler in your team over the last year would protect you from horses-for-courses style selection.

Given his home record over the last 5 years is 132 wickets with an average under 26 it is a very strange decision. Away I could understand it but not at home.

 

[trundler]

Kraig looks very solid

 

[Daemon]

It’s really not a myth at all tbh. Bounce helps a lot too tbf

Really? There's diminishing returns imo. Once you're bowling at a reasonable fast-medium sort of pace, accuracy matters far more than adding a few clicks. If you don't have the consistency and just keep bowling faster then good luck.

Kabbott, Harris, Haze and even Cummins most days don't bowl proper heat yet have found so much success.

 

[Stapel]

Broad seems pretty pissed off with the decision to drop him and fair enough too. You'd hope that having almost 500 Test wickets and being the standout bowler in your team over the last year would protect you from horses-for-courses style selection.

Considering Broad would be the right horse for this course, the whole decision seems odd, anyway.

Same with batting first. Is that Stokes' decison? It formally is, but you'ld expect team management to have a better plan.

Ergo: English team management is quite silly.

 

[Daemon]

Who said that?

It's not about "need". It just works a lot better in Australia than it does in England, from my time at least.

Yeah fair

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Ergo: English team management is quite silly.

Ed Smith is very strange, has made more wrong than right decisions since he took over.

 

[Spark]

Shai Hope batting with a toothpick in his innings so far.

 

[Neptune]

Anderson is still by far our best bowler at 37.

 

[wpdavid]

Ed Smith is very strange, has made more wrong than right decisions since he took over.

Possibly. I wonder how much of the decision making process is also down to Silverwood and the bloke before him whose name escapes me.

 

[trundler]

Very tidy stuff from the veteran