kyear2
International Coach
Great bowling generally >> great batting.
Great bowlers tend to effect the stats and effectiveness of the greater bats more so than the other way around in my humble estimation.
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DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread
- Thread starter Days of Grace
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Great bowlers tend to effect the stats and effectiveness of the greater bats more so than the other way around in my humble estimation.
Days of Grace
International Captain
No.6
Kumar Sangakkara (Sri Lanka) 885
Quality Points: 794
Career Points: 91
Career/Runs: 2000-2015, 12400 (rank 6)
Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 52.95 (57.41) 49.08 (53.22) 48.72 (54.19) (rank 12)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (2006-2010): 69.85 61.47 52.13 (rank 8)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.62 47.83 47.51 (rank 16)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.81 47.72 49.97 (rank 18)
Sri Lanka's greatest test batsman and one of the most elegant players of his era or any other time, Kumar Sangakkara is placed one spot above Sachin Tendukar in this exercise. This is mainly due to the fact that Tendulkar averaged 36.79 (37.70) in his final 50 innings whilst Sangakkara averaged 60.42 (67.07). Sangakkara thus benefits in this exercise because he retired whilst still near the peak of his powers. He ranks in the top 20 in all criteria and in time will probably be appreciated a lot more for how he kept Sri Lanka competitive after Muralitharan's retirement. His batting record without the extra burden of wicketkeeping is also phenomenal: 9283 runs at 60.80 (66.78). There is a sizable adjustment to Sangakkara's averages due to him scoring big runs against either weak opposition or in relatively easy batting conditions. But his adjusted average is still well above 50 and he more than deserves his place in the top 10 greatest test batsmen of all-time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwN0zLotgqc
Kumar Sangakkara (Sri Lanka) 885
Quality Points: 794
Career Points: 91
Career/Runs: 2000-2015, 12400 (rank 6)
Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 52.95 (57.41) 49.08 (53.22) 48.72 (54.19) (rank 12)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (2006-2010): 69.85 61.47 52.13 (rank 8)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.62 47.83 47.51 (rank 16)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.81 47.72 49.97 (rank 18)
Sri Lanka's greatest test batsman and one of the most elegant players of his era or any other time, Kumar Sangakkara is placed one spot above Sachin Tendukar in this exercise. This is mainly due to the fact that Tendulkar averaged 36.79 (37.70) in his final 50 innings whilst Sangakkara averaged 60.42 (67.07). Sangakkara thus benefits in this exercise because he retired whilst still near the peak of his powers. He ranks in the top 20 in all criteria and in time will probably be appreciated a lot more for how he kept Sri Lanka competitive after Muralitharan's retirement. His batting record without the extra burden of wicketkeeping is also phenomenal: 9283 runs at 60.80 (66.78). There is a sizable adjustment to Sangakkara's averages due to him scoring big runs against either weak opposition or in relatively easy batting conditions. But his adjusted average is still well above 50 and he more than deserves his place in the top 10 greatest test batsmen of all-time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwN0zLotgqc
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honestbharani
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Will not have him this high personally but his numbers were absolutely freakish. A wonderful batsman to watch in full flow.
OverratedSanity
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Bit high for a guy who played only 30 odd games his whole career outside the subcontinent, and didnt average 50 against any of the strong teams in his era.
Great player though, played a few of my favourite innings of the last 10-15 years.
Great player though, played a few of my favourite innings of the last 10-15 years.
Great batsman. Not surprised. Watched Sanga score 100* against Shane Bond & co. on a very difficult pitch (team total of 170 all out), and to prove it was no fluke, he repeated the feat in the very next match scoring 156* (team total of 268 all out). The second Test match to me was more memorable for Malinga's fiery bowling in the first innings though. New Zealand batsmen just couldn't handle the heat.
honestbharani
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Not for folks who have seen him bat.
jimmy101
Cricketer Of The Year
I dunno. I always imagined he'd enjoy the occasional puff.
sunilz
International Regular
Yeah, I don't know why some posters are so much interested in having Tendulkar fans having meltdown. I can easily post 5 to 6 stats which would prove Lara was a dead rubber bully. If one or 2 poster so much want a meltdown then it would be in Lara fans camp.
ataraxia
International Coach
Do that for Gavaskar as well.
ataraxia
International Coach
I mean for his stats.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Apparently he did if you look at his quality opposition rating.
He also averages 47.58 (unadjusted) outside the sub-continent. Not too shabby.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Thanks for that. It's been corrected.
sunilz
International Regular
Gavaskar didn't went missing throught the series when it was live and scored a big century in the last match of series when , test series was already lost . It would have been lot more beneficial for the team if Lara had scored big knock in the first match of series like Ponting.
Let's play your best knock when series is already over and opposition is not giving its 100% effort
OverratedSanity
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Mostly because of Pakistan and India isn't it? I wouldn't call any of the Pakistan attacks he bashed particularly strong apart from a few great knocks against Asif.
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He could play good pace bowling though, no question about that. In addition to the two hundreds in 06 against bond in nz, his double in 2015 was glorious. Also had the disadvantage for a very long time of having poor openers who couldn't shield him overseas.
I agree. I am surprised too. Statistically I expected Sanga to be ranked higher than Lara. They both batted almost exactly the same number of innings (232 vs 233), Sanga scored nearly 500 more runs with more 50s & more 100s.
I guess the quality of his opposition put Lara in front. Lara must be next though.
Also sad to see that Sanga never played a 4 or 5 Test series in his entire career.
sunilz
International Regular
Gavaskar vs Lara against top attack
Gavaskar vs Marshall average 50
Lara vs McGrath average 45
Gavaskar vs Imran/ Qadir average 51
Lara vs Wasim/Waqar average 35
Gavaskar vs Hadlee average 35
Lara vs Donald average 30
If people want to have Gavaskar vs Lara discussion, I will post more stats.
Gavaskar vs Marshall average 50
Lara vs McGrath average 45
Gavaskar vs Imran/ Qadir average 51
Lara vs Wasim/Waqar average 35
Gavaskar vs Hadlee average 35
Lara vs Donald average 30
If people want to have Gavaskar vs Lara discussion, I will post more stats.
Cabinet96
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The way Sanga seemed to just keep getting better was so gun. Will never forgot in his final year of international cricket, that double century in New Zealand against world class swing bowlers, and the four consecutive ODI centuries in the World Cup. Neither the opposition/conditions in NZ, or the ODI game, were traditional strengths of his batsmanship (relatively speaking) but by then it didn't matter; he was just a complete, all conquering batting master. WAG.