-
Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
England players and selection discussion thread
- Thread starter Bijed
- Start date
Bijed
International Regular
That's fair, although OTOH if they'd been determined to pick Sibley this summer they could have easily made the call the Burns wasn't going to make it and replaced him instead
ImpatientLime
International Regular
england have done nothing but give chances to openers who've had fleeting runs in county cricket. none of whom have been good enough.
given that history, i'm not sure giving roy a go was as mad as people are now making out.
what makes sibley any different from compton, carberry, robson, lyth, jennings etc.
given that history, i'm not sure giving roy a go was as mad as people are now making out.
what makes sibley any different from compton, carberry, robson, lyth, jennings etc.
Don't agree. No chance over Roy. Burns at least bats like a test match batter even when he makes zilch. Roy is a walking wicket in test cricket. England should have opened with Sibley and Burns in the first Ashes test but the selectors didn't have the balls to do it.
If you wanted to roll the dice on Roy why before Sibley and not after? Sibley deserved to play in the Ashes over him.
Last edited:
ImpatientLime
International Regular
as i explained before, county runs as an opener have meant squat in test cricket in the last 6-7 years.
I still think whoever makes the most runs in FC cricket ought to get picked for the opener role in particular. ODI runs meant squat in test cricket. Bairstow, Roy, Buttler three world class ODI batsmen they are a walking wicket in the top 5 in test match cricket. It's like a different sport. Opening in test cricket has become increasingly difficult due to the limited overs game making these players forget that test cricket is attritional and not a hit and giggle fest.
flibbertyjibber
Request Your Custom Title Now!
The one thing in Sibley's favour is he does have a capacity to go big when he gets in which is something the others didn't do. Seems to have a large amount of daddy hundreds out of the ones he has got.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
on sibley, wasn't 2019 the first time he averaged 40+ in a season? might be wrong.
The shed is so bare that I was starting to worry about whether the selectors had my mobile number or not at one stage. You could average 40 for 5 minutes and be in with a shout at the moment.
The constant need for an opener has meant that pretty much any run of form has resulted in selection. Some players who'd otherwise shown absolutely nothing have been picked off the back of one good season- Lyth, Robson, Hameed, Jennings (Who I think averaged under 30 before his mammoth 2016)- and then by the time selection comes around have fallen back to their normal level.
Burns might still not make it, but has at least had multiple 1000+. 40+ seasons, which makes me feel a bit more confident about him long term. Sibley has now had 1.5 good seasons (supposedly off the back of some technical alterations) so we'll see what happens.
Burns might still not make it, but has at least had multiple 1000+. 40+ seasons, which makes me feel a bit more confident about him long term. Sibley has now had 1.5 good seasons (supposedly off the back of some technical alterations) so we'll see what happens.
Father Time
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Was away on holiday when the Squads were picked. Test squad ok, Pleased that Bairstow has gone, finally sorted that issue, although tough on Foakes. Sibley had to get a chance, tremendous late season surge of runs, Pope also. Biggest question for me is if Denly is going to bat at 3, what is he doing in the 20/20 squad..?? There are plenty of other options there. Dont know much about the Lancs boys. Also not aquainted with the Test venues of Mt Manganui & Hamilton, is former is a new Test venue?
He's mates with Ed Smith, I think that's really what it's been about all along.
PavlovsDog
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Yes, this will be the 1st Test ever played at Mt Manganui.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
So not exactly ages ago then was it? In any event, picking him before now would definitely not have been based on volume of runs.
Chill pill required.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket...-england-appoint-gary-kirsten-new-head-coach/
Good news if true. Kirsten good pedigree. Surprised really given his reticence to commit to a full time job in recent times. Would have preferred giving the T20 job to someone else and Kirsten test and ODI, rather than him taking breaks from all 3 formats.
Good news if true. Kirsten good pedigree. Surprised really given his reticence to commit to a full time job in recent times. Would have preferred giving the T20 job to someone else and Kirsten test and ODI, rather than him taking breaks from all 3 formats.
