5th Test at The Oval, London

[Red]

What Marsh did today makes him worthwhile enough, even allowing for his mishit batting. I'm not talking the 4 wickets either. If he can bowl a large chunk of overs economically, then he is being useful. It is when he only bowls 7 or so in an innings and then scores nothing is when he annoys.

Yep, 2 or 3 wickets per test at a decent ER and a batting avg north of 30 and he's set.

 

[Tom Flint]

Stokes should not be batting higher than 6. Whether he is able to bowl or not

 

[GIMH]

Stokes should not be batting higher than 6. Whether he is able to bowl or not

Scored two tons from five in this series

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Yep, 2 or 3 wickets per test at a decent ER and a batting avg north of 30 and he's set.

MMarsh would need to have a real hot streak with the bat to get his career average up around 30ish. See your point though, there are times when trading off a bit of batting depth to strength the attack (providing he maintains this bowling form) is a viable option


U turn, what U turn?

 

[Tom Flint]

Scored two tons from five in this series

I'm not criticizing his performance in this series. Just his overall career has proved him to be a good number 6, lots of low scores in between some great innings. Time to bat people in their proper positions and fill the remaining spots with the most in form championship players.

Burns
Sibley
Denly
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Leach
Archer
Broad

 

[aussie tragic]

MMarsh would need to have a real hot streak with the bat to get his career average up around 30ish.

Or a really good Test. 151* and 70* would do it

 

[Groundking]

I just realised that Cummins basically dismissed Root 4 times this innings.

Perhaps it's not the captaincy that's the problem. Perhaps it's Cummins.

Roots been doing crap long before Cummins and Hazlewood got a hold of him.

 

[Spark]

I don't think you can complain that much about Root's batting tbh. He's worked really, really, really hard for his runs and has copped some good deliveries that have exposed technical deficiencies that IMO he's always had and are probably inimical to his technique.

 

[GIMH]

I'm not criticizing his performance in this series. Just his overall career has proved him to be a good number 6, lots of low scores in between some great innings. Time to bat people in their proper positions and fill the remaining spots with the most in form championship players.

Burns
Sibley
Denly
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler +
Woakes
Leach
Archer
Broad

With Stokes at 6 for the 2nd and 3rd Tests we are conceivably 4-0 down now

 

[Spark]

With Stokes at 6 for the 2nd and 3rd Tests we are conceivably 4-0 down now

Yeah I don't think Bairstow would have been anywhere near as likely to have blunted out the Aus attack at the end of Day 3 at Headingley as Stokes was. At a minimum Stokes wouldn't have been as well set when the new ball was taken.

 

[vcs]

4 half centuries in a series that's had some pretty high quality bowling is not a terrible return for Root. It's the string of single digit scores that's hurting his average. Getting off to starts hasn't been a problem for him, historically.

 

[aussie tragic]

I don't remember ever seeing a batsman get 3 ducks, 4 fifties and no centuries in a series before Root

 

[Jack1]

That's a bit of a paradox, him having a fear of failure but doing so well in limited overs motivated by a fear of losing.

When you take the draw out (tie being very unlikely) it creates a difficult mindset in red ball for him. I'm just going off an article I read. He admitted himself that fear of failure effects all his cricket. Shame as he's a good player. To escape defeat in limited you have to push for the win very hard. Red ball it's a conundrum between the draw and the win. You don't know what you need to get either unless chasing in a limited overs game. Setting a total has been confusing for Buttler in all formats. I feel like it is why he's most comfortable with the tail. He can just play in t20 mode. He is our most talented player no doubt. Highly skilled. The mental side of the game he lets himself down but that's his nature. Without him being like that mentally he probably wouldn't have the physical talents he has. Interesting player.

 

[Spikey]

dont know why you don't recall percy holmes doing it

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[social]

MMarsh is such a frustrating cricketer

Guy can bat & bowl

 

[Agent TBY]

CumWood are great but they don't exactly get a lot of swing.

That's what happens when you live to bang it in.

 

[Arachnodouche]

MMarsh is such a frustrating cricketer

Guy can bat & bowl

Aus need to invest in him the way they take care of their top shelf pacers. Few if any all rounders are all go all the time. This guy is only 28 still and at the least can fill out the stock bowler role which would make room for Starc's waywardness as well as give Cummins and Hazlewood some leg room.

 

[Prince EWS]

Was averaging about 85mph at one point, if I have the conversion rate correct that is about 137ish.

Deserves more than right arm medium imo

His fastest delivery was 144km/hr too.

He came back pretty lame pace-wise after his injury and his few months playing as a specialist bat but his bowling seems to be back to where it was now.

 

[social]

Aus need to invest in him the way they take care of their top shelf pacers. Few if any all rounders are all go all the time. This guy is only 28 still and at the least can fill out the stock bowler role which would make room for Starc's waywardness as well as give Cummins and Hazlewood some leg room.

Trouble is that he’s not a 6

 

[TheJediBrah]

MMarsh could definitely be a 6. Or even bat higher. Just needs things to click a bit. He's shown that he's clearly good enough at the level below to play as a specialist batsman.