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South Africa team selection
- Thread starter StephenZA
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Dendarii
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I've been out of the country for the past couple of weeks, so I've ended up observing South Africa's dismal tournament from afar, and I was maybe better off because of that. I agree with what's been posted, but the big question is what will Cricket South Africa's reaction be? And how quickly are they going to react? The tour to India isn't that far away, and while it's probably the worst thing to do to a new coach, he does need to be in place by then with at the very least a general idea of how to take the team forward.
SeamUp
International Coach
SA A 4-day squad
Batsmen : Markram (c), Moore, P.Malan, Bavuma, Hamza, de Bruyn, Second (wk), Zondo
All-rounders: Mulder (seam), Muthusamy (spin)
Spinners : Piedt, Linde
Seamers : B.Hendricks, Nortje, Sipamla
* How is Zondo there ? No Verreynne or K.Petersen. Personally I would forwarded Dupavillon's involvement but knew they wouldn't.
SA 1-day squad
Batsmen : Breetzke , J.Malan, Cloete (wk), R.Hendricks, Bavuma (c), de Bruyn, Klaasen (wk), Qeshile (wk)
All-rounder : Mulder
Spinners : Linde, Fortuin
Seamers : B.Hendricks, Nortje, Dala, Sipamla
Batsmen : Markram (c), Moore, P.Malan, Bavuma, Hamza, de Bruyn, Second (wk), Zondo
All-rounders: Mulder (seam), Muthusamy (spin)
Spinners : Piedt, Linde
Seamers : B.Hendricks, Nortje, Sipamla
* How is Zondo there ? No Verreynne or K.Petersen. Personally I would forwarded Dupavillon's involvement but knew they wouldn't.
SA 1-day squad
Batsmen : Breetzke , J.Malan, Cloete (wk), R.Hendricks, Bavuma (c), de Bruyn, Klaasen (wk), Qeshile (wk)
All-rounder : Mulder
Spinners : Linde, Fortuin
Seamers : B.Hendricks, Nortje, Dala, Sipamla
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StephenZA
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Yeah. Don't get the point of Zondo, Petersen would have been a better choice. Dupavillion over Hendricks. Is it a surprise to see Linde in both LO and 4-day squad? And sorry to say I don't see the point of Klaasens and Qeshile in the LO's squad. Klaasens as a pure batsmen?
SeamUp
International Coach
If it is a numbers thing, not sure how you can take the chance away from Qeshile. Not that I have ever agreed with it as you know.
I think it is surprise re: Linde over Fortuin. I like Linde though but doesn't get much chance with Piedt. He did get a chance back end of the season at PMB and if memory serves me correct he out-bowled Piedt,
Klaasen is actually a decent fielder so would give the gloves to Qeshile if he plays, My worry again in that limited overs team is lots of top order players.
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Dendarii
International Debutant
The only reason I can think for Zondo still being there is that they want to ease Qeshile into things rather than have him play both formats from the get-go. But even though there are a few players hanging around who are never going to progress beyond the A side the two squads do seem to have more of a forward-looking feel than past squads.
StephenZA
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Maybe with Linde they looking towards the Indian series and the batting as well as bowling? Shoot out between Muthumsamy and Linde?
I`m not against Klaasen as a player, but more as future looking? Is Klaasen the right person to be thinking about now for the team in the ODI future? I suppose he is only 27 but he had one great season (much like Jonker) but not really set the world alight. Agree on top order player issues. Need to look for that number six that can build and end an innings difficult task.
StephenZA
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Elgars form is becoming a real issue, just out for 24. I know that Bavuma is not doing great, but he is being his consistent mediocre which needs to be replaced, hopefully soon, but nothing new. But Elgar as our opener, touted as a possible transition captain between Faf and Markram, and the rest of the problem with the batting line-up and a probable new number 3 in Hamza really exacerbates the problems. I mean Markram is only just settling after we looked for a partner for Elgar for how many years? Now it looks like Elgar just can't get going again after that great season we hoped he would kick on from. I mean how many players can a team carry because of 'reasons'.
This Indian tour is going to be such a litmus test for CSA, players and coaching staff.
StephenZA
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SeamUp
International Coach
That is what it looks like. Possibility to go along as 3rd spinner and they probably have the most ability with the bat amongst spinners. Bjorn's batting reminds me a lot of Keshav's.
Oh yeah,. I suppose looking at the squad, he is one of the few that can bat #5/#6 and score from the word go. He probably deserves to be there than 1 or 2 others and brings down senior international experience. I think they going to find out a lot on this tour. England Lions here in the summer and I am hoping other players have put their hands up.
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SeamUp
International Coach
I agree on Elgar being more of concern considering he was a vital cog averaging over 40. Some players when they get to 30+ can't keep up those standards.
Bavuma with 24 & 17 in the latest game. Don't forget this is division 2. Almost immediately droppable considering his test record already.
StephenZA
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espncricinfo_id/27097717/steyn-joins-euro-t20-slam-marquee-player
So I somehow don't think that Steyn is making it to the Indian series.
So I somehow don't think that Steyn is making it to the Indian series.
Heboric
International Debutant
JP Duminy retires from ALL international cricket:
https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/C...s-retirement-for-all-proteas-cricket-20190707
https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/C...s-retirement-for-all-proteas-cricket-20190707
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So he has basically made himself unavailable for T20WC next year? Not sure how bothered I am!
And Gibson wants to stay on? Not sure how I feel about that. Trying not to be a knee jerk reaction here, but everybody talking about the T20WC next year is ****ing irritating, could not give a damn about that. SA have a far more important Indian and English Test series coming.
Dendarii
International Debutant
I suspect he's been told he's not going to make it to the T20WC. If that's the case then he's basically retiring now rather than have to face the situation of having hung on only to not be selected.
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Taken 3 wickets in all 3 innings played so far.
Elgar consistently getting 50+'s now. Bavuma scored a ton (but looks a flat pitch?).