*Official* India Tour of Australia 2018/19

[ishqiya]

Aussies jal rahe hai. Woo hoo. Tendulkar > Bradman.

 

[h_hurricane]

very doubtful

Agree with this. Sachin did not have the inhuman powers of concentration that Bradman had. Ability not to get out often is what separated him from every other ATG batsman.

 

[Borges]

To make Tendulkar == Bradman, you would have to give Tendulkar a massive dose of what I call the Dingo Bonus.
For example: Hilfenhaus + Dingo Bonus == Anderson, Lesser AB + Dingo Bonus == greatest post war player etc.

Unfortunately, this doesn't help, because only Australian players are eligible to be bestowed with positive Dingo Bonuses.

 

[h_hurricane]

To make Tendulkar == Bradman, you would have to give Tendulkar a massive dose of what I call the Dingo Bonus.
For example: Hilfenhaus + Dingo Bonus == Anderson, Lesser AB + Dingo Bonus == greatest post war player etc.

Unfortunately, this doesn't help, because only Australian players are eligible to be bestowed with positive Dingo Bonuses.

I bet, in a virtual world where Bradman did not exist, Lesser AB would have gone down as the greatest ever cricketer.

 

[jimmy101]

Who knows? Perhaps Sachin would have averaged 69?

 

[the big bambino]

The England attacks Bradman faced were statistically superior to both Pakistan and SA of Tendulkar’s era. Approximately 1990-2009.

EDIT: that is the attacks pre war

 

[h_hurricane]

Who knows? Perhaps Sachin would have averaged 69?

Not likely. One major issue with Sachin was, he did not have monstrous series like Bradman, Richards, Sobers etc. Never scored 500 in a single series. Found a way to get out against weaker bowlers all too often. Remember him at his peak in 1998 being dismissed by Adam Dale, bowled neck and crop when he had a 300 for the taking. The likes of Hansie Cronje had his number frequently.

 

[_00_deathscar]

How the **** did this topic degenerate into a Bradman vs Sachin discussi.....oh hi @sunilz

 

[h_hurricane]

How the **** did this topic degenerate into a Bradman vs Sachin discussi.....oh hi @sunilz

I thought it was Burgey who put words into Sunliz's mouth that Sunliz considered Tendulkar greater than Bradman, when he clearly didn't.

 

[h_hurricane]

The England attacks Bradman faced were statistically superior to both Pakistan and SA of Tendulkar’s era. Approximately 1990-2009.

EDIT: that is the attacks pre war

Could be. I just don't see Tendulkar averaging 100 for a significant period of time in any era he would have hypothetically played. But, I do think he would have averaged 50-55 in any era.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Could be. I just don't see Tendulkar averaging 100 for a significant period of time in any era he would have hypothetically played. But, I do think he would have averaged 50-55 in any era.

I think this is pretty obviously the case. He might have averaged up to 65 if he played in Sangakkara's shoes, or if his career was moved 10 years later though IMO

 

[h_hurricane]

I think this is pretty obviously the case. He might have averaged up to 65 if he played in Sangakkara's shoes, or if his career was moved 10 years later though IMO

True. His floor would have been 50-55, ceiling would be 60-65 imo, one major issue would be that he would find a way to get out against mediocre bowlers.

 

[Arachnodouche]

I enjoy watching Kohli more than I did Tendulkar. One case where nostalgia doesn't win out for a change.

 

[jimmy101]

I enjoy watching Kohli more than I did Tendulkar. One case where nostalgia doesn't win out for a change.

Ditto.

 

[Burgey]

I thought it was Burgey who put words into Sunliz's mouth that Sunliz considered Tendulkar greater than Bradman, when he clearly didn't.

He said earlier the Deaf Dwarf was the greatest batsman of all time, but then I think he acknowledged the Miserable Mason was better.

 

[the big bambino]

Could be. I just don't see Tendulkar averaging 100 for a significant period of time in any era he would have hypothetically played. But, I do think he would have averaged 50-55 in any era.

The distinction is even more marked if you take it from the year Bradman debuted in fc cricket. Which stands to reason as that coincided with England recovering from the first war. That said it’s in SRT’s favour that he faced a greater variety of attacks due to the greater number of opponents he played.

 

[vcs]

I enjoy watching Kohli more than I did Tendulkar. One case where nostalgia doesn't win out for a change.

AWTA, but I'd qualify that to Tendulkar post-2004, where he reined in his attacking instincts significantly. '90s Tendulkar was incredible to watch.

Kohli is fabulous to watch because he plays so many beautiful cover drivers and straight drives.

 

[stephen]

Saying that Sachin would have averaged the same as Bradman, had they played in the same era is no less nonsensical than suggesting that Shaun Marsh would have averaged the same as Sachin had they played in the same era.

It's funny because not even Sunilz believes it.

Burgey (and myself TBF) was basically stirring Indian supporters who worship Sachin because Sachin never performed in pressure situations (except when he did, but we'll conveniently forget them).

 

[h_hurricane]

Saying that Sachin would have averaged the same as Bradman, had they played in the same era is no less nonsensical than suggesting that Shaun Marsh would have averaged the same as Sachin had they played in the same era.

It's funny because not even Sunilz believes it.

Burgey (and myself TBF) was basically stirring Indian supporters who worship Sachin because Sachin never performed in pressure situations (except when he did, but we'll conveniently forget them).

I don't see many Sachin worshipers here(there might be a few exceptions, I agree). People love him a lot for the way he played in the first half of his career. Most would not rate his second half that highly. He tarnished his legacy by clinging on too late in his career just like Dhoni is doing now.

 

[criccontent]

Rayudu is the weak link in the indian side. Maybe selectores should fast track Gill or Shaw in that position