Australian test selection 2018/19

[mr_mister]

I'm pretty sure most psychiatrists advise a very slow and gradual return to the workplace/stressful situations after a major episode of most of the more common mental illnesses

Going straight from the shield in front of 150 people to a test in front of several thousand so soon probably goes against this practice


Though there's not too much precedent for this stuff with regards to professional cricketers so who knows

 

[Burgey]

Smith has apparently injured his elbow in Bangladesh and is coming home. Initial reports saying he made need surgery and be out 3-4 months.

 

[the big bambino]

You know I'm ashamed of myself for ever questioning the justice of the bans. On reflection it was such a good idea to punish someone to the point of depression, vilify them publicly, weaken the team for the home summer and have your best player pick up an injury in a place he would never have been if treated justly in the first place. I am rebuked and would like to apologise to James Sutherland.

 

[aussie tragic]

So Australia public has been aggressively questioning selectors over the omission of Maxwell, Burns, Wade and Renshaw (who should have played in UAE)

Now we're hearing some real crap from selectors as they back paddle from the everyone is averaging 30 comment.

Matthew Wade is WK so bats at 6...sorry you don't bat high enough and need to be in top 4. Does this mean every 5 & 6 in the country is automatically out of contention? Also Wade regularly comes in early due to spicy tassie deck.

Apparently Maxwell was never told to rest from county cricket, despite a CA planning email stating otherwise, and has not produced enough in red ball cricket...how the hall is he supposed to if always playing white ball for Australia?

I guess they couldn't find an excuse for Burns, while Renshaw was likely chosen in bad form just to show that they knew what they were doing (and deflect further discussion on Wade and Maxwell)

 

[the big bambino]

When you take into account the angry nothing answer Clanger gave at interview for the maltreatment of Maxwell you just know they're playing favourites. Whenever a blackballed player embarrasses them with form they will pick on a characteristic to disqualify him. So now batting at 5 and 6 is offered up as a non reason to discriminate against Wade. If it wasn't that it'd be we have enough left handers in the top order or some such garbage.

 

[stephen]

Hohns basically said wade wasn't picked due to his bad form two years ago (I'm serious here, that's not a joke).

 

[Starfighter]

The desperate lengths they go to for excuses is quite something.

 

[aussie tragic]

Can someone tech smarter than me please set up a 'sack the Australian cricket selectors' web page, blog, petition, etc. I think it's time we had a cricket revolution in this country and we need a place to let them know we won't put up with their failures and hidden agenda anymore

 

[TheJediBrah]

So Australia public has been aggressively questioning selectors over the omission of Maxwell, Burns, Wade and Renshaw (who should have played in UAE)

Now we're hearing some real crap from selectors as they back paddle from the everyone is averaging 30 comment.

Matthew Wade is WK so bats at 6...sorry you don't bat high enough and need to be in top 4. Does this mean every 5 & 6 in the country is automatically out of contention? Also Wade regularly comes in early due to spicy tassie deck.

Apparently Maxwell was never told to rest from county cricket, despite a CA planning email stating otherwise, and has not produced enough in red ball cricket...how the hall is he supposed to if always playing white ball for Australia?

I guess they couldn't find an excuse for Burns, while Renshaw was likely chosen in bad form just to show that they knew what they were doing (and deflect further discussion on Wade and Maxwell)

just here appreciating "back paddling" and "how the hall"

 

[GotSpin]

I’m not really sure that Wade would be a good pick anyway guys...don’t want to burst any balloons though

 

[aussie tragic]

I’m not really sure that Wade would be a good pick anyway guys...don’t want to burst any balloons though

Yeah, I guess the thought process changes now that the Marsh brothers aren't stinking up the test team

 

[Midwinter]

It would be good to have a transparent selection process

Like making the most runs in the shield.

 

[Howe_zat]

35 yos don’t get better. This is known.

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There are a lot of assumptions in this thread that Australia can fix their problems by selecting one bloke who averages 35 over another.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

It is known.

 

[the big bambino]

Yeah over the last year S Marsh has averaged 25 so 35 would be an improvement.

 

[Howe_zat]

It's one thing to say Marsh isn't any good and it's time to drop him based on the last year. It's another to claim only rank incompetence would pick Marsh/Head/Hanscombe over Stoinis/Maxwell/whatever when their records are basically the same and none of them play much FC cricket.

 

[mr_mister]

It's one thing to say Marsh isn't any good and it's time to drop him based on the last year. It's another to claim only rank incompetence would pick Marsh/Head/Hanscombe over Stoinis/Maxwell/whatever when their records are basically the same and none of them play much FC cricket.

Nah mate. The issue is that the Marshes were afforded way more chances than Maxwell and Stoinis. Shaun has a higher % of single digit test scores than any long term middle order bat in history

Maxwells second stint in tests was successful imo. Top scored in a few low scoring innings as well as tonning up right after his recall. DDidn't deserve to get dropped. Definitely deserves a go at home where batting is easier. Also I'd imagine hes averaged over 50 across his last ten shield matches

 

[TheJediBrah]

It's one thing to say Marsh isn't any good and it's time to drop him based on the last year. It's another to claim only rank incompetence would pick Marsh/Head/Hanscombe over Stoinis/Maxwell/whatever when their records are basically the same and none of them play much FC cricket.

No one's said that. The consistent non-selection of Maxwell definitely qualifies for rank incompetence though, as does the unending selection of Mitch Marsh, and the recent love for Labuschagne. These are the things that people are (rightfully) pissed off about.

Seeing that and extending it to every selection as though people think every little selection decision is rank incompetence is erroneous

 

[stephen]

Coming into the summer, Shaun Marsh was actually one of the easiest selections. He made runs in shield, did well last summer and provided valuable experience.

He wasn't the problem. The problems were:

Finch at the top of the order
Handscomb
M Marsh
Labaschagne

In any one test half our batting lineup didn't deserve to be there based on performance.

The other half of the problem wad that the guys who needed to step up - Khawaja and S Marsh in particular - both went missing.

S Marsh should be dropped not and he rightly is. But he should have played India for many reasons.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Coming into the summer, Shaun Marsh was actually one of the easiest selections. He made runs in shield, did well last summer and provided valuable experience.

He wasn't the problem. The problems were:

Finch at the top of the order
Handscomb
M Marsh
Labaschagne

In any one test half our batting lineup didn't deserve to be there based on performance.

The other half of the problem wad that the guys who needed to step up - Khawaja and S Marsh in particular - both went missing.

S Marsh should be dropped not and he rightly is. But he should have played India for many reasons.

Handscomb wasn't a problem. He deserved to be there a hell of a lot more than your boy Renshaw