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*Official* India Tour of Australia 2018/19

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Australia won in SL in 2004 and Ind 2004, 9 years after their era had begun. India's only begun in 2015 with the coronation of King Kohli. Give it time.
How about you give it time? I'm not the one making the proclamation of greatness. I may as well not engage with you since you've displayed a Miyagi-lite understanding here, and I don't want to go through that again.
 

ishqiya

School Boy/Girl Captain
That’s 4 series in 12 years. One of them a mini series. India’s half way to that in one year.
I just listed from top of my head. Didn't even list the 96 series (which you are referring to as the mini series I assume).

If we assume the Aussie reign from their 95 win against WI till Ashes 2007 when McWarne retired here is how many they lost/draw -

96/97 India
97/98 India
99 draw WI
99 SL
00/01 India
01/02 draw NZ
03/04 draw India
04/05 Eng

5 losses 3 draws. And they did lose in SL and Ind in the span of 18 months. India's "halfway" that was purely due to scheduling.
 

ishqiya

School Boy/Girl Captain
How about you give it time? I'm not the one making the proclamation of greatness. I may as well not engage with you since you've displayed a Miyagi-lite understanding here, and I don't want to go through that again.
Aus was still a great team before winning in SL/Ind in 2004 just like Ind is now so I am celebrating that.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Only from the perspective of Europeans (or European origin people). The world is going back to the way it was - Asia on top.
this isn't the way it was at all lol for most of history the far west and east kept to themselves at state level barring international trade

the troll in me notes your use of latin to describe your great indian empire which should tell you something.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
this isn't the way it was at all lol for most of history the far west and east kept to themselves at state level barring international trade

the troll in me notes your use of latin to describe your great indian empire which should tell you something.
If the only thing you learnt was a nationalist version of history it's the only one you'll know.
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
I just listed from top of my head. Didn't even list the 96 series (which you are referring to as the mini series I assume).

If we assume the Aussie reign from their 95 win against WI till Ashes 2007 when McWarne retired here is how many they lost/draw -

96/97 India
97/98 India
99 draw WI
99 SL
00/01 India
01/02 draw NZ
03/04 draw India
04/05 Eng

5 losses 3 draws. And they did lose in SL and Ind in the span of 18 months. India's "halfway" that was purely due to scheduling.
Well at least it isn’t cherry picking. Besides you picked the timeframe not me. the only scheduling disadvantage I see is with the Australians. India won’t be playing SA away two seasons in a row.
 

ishqiya

School Boy/Girl Captain
this isn't the way it was at all lol for most of history the far west and east kept to themselves at state level barring international trade

the troll in me notes your use of latin to describe your great indian empire which should tell you something.
The effects of colonization. But just like we made cricket ours latin too shall become ours.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well at least it isn’t cherry picking. Besides you picked the timeframe not me. the only scheduling disadvantage I see is with the Australians. India won’t be playing SA away two seasons in a row.
It's like a more assertive version of Pap Finn Keighl when it comes to slicing.
 

Kirkut

International Regular
Great win but still not even close to the emotions of the 2008 Perth win.

Still remember the way Symonds was celebrating Kumble's wicket, and the way Kumble gave it back to Symonds with his own celebration. It became way more than a game at that time.
 

ishqiya

School Boy/Girl Captain
Well at least it isn’t cherry picking. Besides you picked the timeframe not me. the only scheduling disadvantage I see is with the Australians. India won’t be playing SA away two seasons in a row.
I meant as in get all the three big non Asian countries in one year which allows for losses to happen in one year. The same case would have happened if the SL and India series were closer. I didn't even notice the 96/97 and 97/98 losses were in one year.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well India did what was minimally expected. Hopefully history doesn't downplay the achievement as they didn't face the great three cheats of our generation
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
this isn't the way it was at all lol for most of history the far west and east kept to themselves at state level barring international trade

the troll in me notes your use of latin to describe your great indian empire which should tell you something.
Ok now that’s funny.
 

NotMcKenzie

International Debutant
Give a few thoughts:

- The problem of our batsmen being unable to rotate the strike, which was very apparent during the one-day series, affects our test team as well now. We simply were unable to nudge the ball into a gap or drop it and run or anything like that. Instead, we prefer to to drill it straight the the fieldsmen as if we are only allowed to score in boundaries, and when they couldn't do that, they could only dead-bat it.

- Similarly, India were able to do so, and I think that throughout the series, the Australian fieldsmen were generally too far from the bat to be effective in saving singles. It seems to be a constant problem; e.g. our slips often stand too far back on slow pitches, I guess because our bowlers are sooooooo fast that they need to have the slips that far away. However, fielders in front of the bat were also similarly too far away.

- I thought that our bowling efforts looked listless and lifeless. Even in Perth, I thought India's bowling (perhaps apart from Yadav) looked better than ours for the following reasons. We usually seemed to have no plans to bowl to the Indian batsmen, whether by blocking scoring shots or in exploiting vulnerable strokes. And when we did try something—bowling short in Sydney—we apparently (having no seen that day myself) overdid it, as if we had nothing to fall back upon when that plan didn't work.
Our strategy seemed to be 'bowl good', and a lot of the time, our bowlers looked as if they were simply going through the motions without interest or thought or effort.

- To continue the last point, no-one in our team seemed to be paying any attention to or thinking about ways of countering the Indian batsmen. This might go hand-in-hand with the lack of application in our batting. No-one seemed to be applying themselves mentally and everyone looked uninspired.
 

OverratedSanity

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Great win but still not even close to the emotions of the 2008 Perth win.

Still remember the way Symonds was celebrating Kumble's wicket, and the way Kumble gave it back to Symonds with his own celebration. It became way more than a game at that time.
Watching Symonds being given sawn off by a terrible decision was delicious.
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
I meant as in get all the three big non Asian countries in one year which allows for losses to happen in one year. The same case would have happened if the SL and India series were closer. I didn't even notice the 96/97 and 97/98 losses were in one year.
True but we beat Lanka most other times in that era. Point is that side could play Pak India SL away in a short space of time and almost guarantee two series wins at least. Whereas India have lost 2 out of 3 and have struggled away v NZ too.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
- I thought that our bowling efforts looked listless and lifeless. Even in Perth, I thought India's bowling (perhaps apart from Yadav) looked better than ours for the following reasons. We usually seemed to have no plans to bowl to the Indian batsmen, whether by blocking scoring shots or in exploiting vulnerable strokes. And when we did try something—bowling short in Sydney—we apparently (having no seen that day myself) overdid it, as if we had nothing to fall back upon when that plan didn't work.
Our strategy seemed to be 'bowl good', and a lot of the time, our bowlers looked as if they were simply going through the motions without interest or thought or effort.
If there's one thing to add it's that I though the Indians bowled way better as a unit whereas the Australians bowled seemed to go about their own ideas without reference to the others.

I find the seam presentation of the Australians concerning too, too much wobble seam or in Hazlewood's case a tilted seam that stops him getting movement off the pitch.
 
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