***Official*** Sri Lanka Tour of West Indies 2018

[Burgey]

You're not usually this dumb....

Bold assertion.

 

[cnerd123]

You're not usually this dumb unless you're actively avoiding the issue. The point is simple - a ball that we know was tampered with, was checked by on field umpires and they failed to detect anything. So what exactly is their process here in determining ball tampering? When there we know for a fact that ball tampering happened, Umpires have no clue. When there's not a shred of video evidence, umpires have an issue with the ball.

The process is using their eyes and judgement

Yes it's subjective. That is clearly written in the laws. Umpires have discretion.

Nowhere in the laws it says that you need video evidence

 

[Mr Miyagi]

"The officials laid the charge after television footage from the final session's play on Friday appeared to show the Sri Lanka captain taking sweets out from his left pocket and putting these in his mouth, before applying the artificial substance to the ball which the umpires viewed as an attempt to change its condition.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...guilty-to-ball-tampering-20180618-p4zm34.html

Disappointing, I was hoping for a charge of using an orbital sander on the ball. It is about time the ICC puts a mandate on time limits between having the mints, chewing gum, biltong, and various sweets in one's mouth between and using saliva on the ball that teams can then follow and know they're not breaking any rules.

 

[Daemon]

Well, at least he did it on his own as the captain instead of coercing a young player to do it as a scapegoat.

Pity he's not taking responsibility though. This seems pretty much identical to the Faf case, just without the ridiculousness of the whole team 'standing in solidarity' behind their captain during the presser.

 

[Borges]

It is about time the ICC puts a mandate on time limits between having the mints, chewing gum, biltong, and various sweets in one's mouth between and using saliva on the ball.

They should just ban the antisocial and unhygienic practice of using saliva on the ball. Who knows what kind of infection Faf may not be carrying?

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Well, at least he did it on his own as the captain instead of coercing a young player to do it as a scapegoat.

Pity he's not taking responsibility though. This seems pretty much identical to the Faf case, just without the ridiculousness of the whole team 'standing in solidarity' behind their captain during the presser.

"Through trial and error I finally settled on the best type of spit for the task at hand."
Marcus Trescothick in his autobiography recollects his role as England's chief ball polisher, and owes it all to Murray Mints

A CRICKETING VIEW: Spit, Sweat and the Cricket Ball

 

[Mr Miyagi]

They should just ban the antisocial and unhygienic practice of using saliva on the ball. Who knows what kind of infection Faf may not be carrying?

So what - use ICC approved and provided water bottles (these could be 10ml size with a thin squirt end) for polishing?

 

[Migara]

Oh yes, because they're really going to throw that hissy fit and refuse to play then turn round and say "actually I did do it" aren't they?

Nope.

 

[Migara]

Very good fight by the boys. From the body language, can say they are angry, very angry. Expect fast bowlers to run in, and bend the back little more than usual. If they win this, I am sure team will dedicate it to Chandimal.

 

[cnerd123]

How nice of the team, to get all riled up to defend their cheating captain, and to avenge the perfectly just punishment they received for a crime they absolutely committed

 

[OverratedSanity]

Very good fight by the boys. From the body language, can say they are angry, very angry. Expect fast bowlers to run in, and bend the back little more than usual. If they win this, I am sure team will dedicate it to Chandimal.

**** me that would be unbelievably lame. The guy allegedly cheated, he isn't dead ffs

 

[Burgey]

US Postal Team gonna do it for Lance!

 

[TheJediBrah]

How nice of the team, to get all riled up to defend their cheating captain, and to avenge the perfectly just punishment they received for a crime they absolutely committed

Nothing wrong with a nationalistic little Lankan

 

[harsh.ag]

Good for the Lankans. Right way to fight back!

Dickwella at 8 is h4x

 

[Daemon]

Good for the Lankans. Right way to fight back!

Dickwella at 8 is h4x

He's not really 8 though, only because of the night watchman

Impressive fightback for sure though. Hope they're knocked over cheaply now, anything over 300 will be out of WI's reach imo.

 

[Borges]

Sri Lanka have enough; they should declare at their overnight score.

 

[Migara]

**** me that would be unbelievably lame. The guy allegedly cheated, he isn't dead ffs

Don't think there was any cheating involved, looks more like subconsciously done. Exact reason for him to get angry. However if there is footage of him doing it over and over again, I would change my opinion.

 

[cnerd123]

The 5 run penalty doesn't apply only if intent can be proven. If the umpires can identify one player unfairly altering the condition of the ball, and believe that the ball has been unfairly altered, they can take action. Intent or needing extensive TV replays are not required

 

[harsh.ag]

The 5 run penalty doesn't apply only if intent can be proven. If the umpires can identify one player unfairly altering the condition of the ball, and believe that the ball has been unfairly altered, they can take action. Intent or needing extensive TV replays are not required

Yeah but he's talking about the level of evidence he requires to make up his mind on intent involved.

 

[TheJediBrah]

The 5 run penalty doesn't apply only if intent can be proven. If the umpires can identify one player unfairly altering the condition of the ball, and believe that the ball has been unfairly altered, they can take action. Intent or needing extensive TV replays are not required

Doesn't mean the umpires aren't open to criticism though. If an umpire gives a terrible lbw decision then he can be criticised on it, even though it was within his authority to give it.