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***Official*** England in New Zealand 2018

Spark

Global Moderator
Surely Stoneman has to go. Had 3 or 4 innings there and still only managed 60
Let me guess, bright start off questionable new ball bowling, gets completely stuck when the bowlers tighten up, loose shot to get out?
 

vandem

State Captain
Only watched first 2 sessions, but pleased that Kane gave Sodhi a decent early spell with a hard ball. Created a few half-problems. But perhaps an accurate (defensive?) SLA is the better option in a test team where Boult and Southee keep taking wickets? Hopefully Ajaz Patel gets a run in sub-continent.

Will be interesting to see how much part Leach can play on day 4 and 5.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
I posted this a week or two ago, our process for reviews is absolutely atrocious and needs to be sorted out.

Today's theme seemed to be 'hey there's been a few strangles this series, let's review them' or 'we're behind and about to lose yet another series decider, let's desperately review'.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
I posted this a week or two ago, our process for reviews is absolutely atrocious and needs to be sorted out.

Today's theme seemed to be 'hey there's been a few strangles this series, let's review them' or 'we're behind and about to lose yet another series decider, let's desperately review'.
"Tim is a key senior member of the team and we trust his judgement"
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
lovely trenty has bowled very well today imo

i can. did you not see that ripper from anderson this morning? unplayable.
You could just as easily say like how easy Wagner and Boult found once the ball was about 10 overs old. England win probably the favourite at this point, but if Branderson don't make deep inroads early, then 120ish overs should not be that hard to bat out.
 

vcs

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I think NZ should try and restrict them.. set defensive fields, bowl one side of the wicket and delay the declaration as much as possible. Wicket looks completely flat.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
I posted this a week or two ago, our process for reviews is absolutely atrocious and needs to be sorted out.

Today's theme seemed to be 'hey there's been a few strangles this series, let's review them' or 'we're behind and about to lose yet another series decider, let's desperately review'.
Southee and Williamson (rightly) cop a lot of flack for being terrible reviewers, but Watling is equally bad from one of the best positions to judge what's happened.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Southee and Williamson (rightly) cop a lot of flack for being terrible reviewers, but Watling is equally bad from one of the best positions to judge what's happened.
Absolutely. For a senior player in such a good spot he gets them horrendously wrong.

Anyway, yeah we're best to go absolutely defensive tomorrow, keep England out there eking out runs until the final session and back ourselves to bat 4 sessions to win a series.
 

Borges

International Regular
I think NZ should try and restrict them.. set defensive fields, bowl one side of the wicket and delay the declaration as much as possible. Wicket looks completely flat.
They have been doing that quite nicely so far; bowling yorkers wide of the off stump. Got wickets for those, too.
 

Flem274*

123/5
You could just as easily say like how easy Wagner and Boult found once the ball was about 10 overs old. England win probably the favourite at this point, but if Branderson don't make deep inroads early, then 120ish overs should not be that hard to bat out.
120 overs is always hard to bat out, especially when you have to bat 120 overs.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Only watched first 2 sessions, but pleased that Kane gave Sodhi a decent early spell with a hard ball. Created a few half-problems. But perhaps an accurate (defensive?) SLA is the better option in a test team where Boult and Southee keep taking wickets? Hopefully Ajaz Patel gets a run in sub-continent.

Will be interesting to see how much part Leach can play on day 4 and 5.
i think with CdG capable of doing the holding job and making a nuisance of himself in general we need to choose the more attacking options. Boult, Southee, Wagner and Astle would be my four main bowlers unless it's a dustbowl. On dustbowls you pick guys who can put 6 from 6 down the other end on the exact same spot like Santner/Ajaz.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Southee and Williamson (rightly) cop a lot of flack for being terrible reviewers, but Watling is equally bad from one of the best positions to judge what's happened.
Yep, one reason England have usually been good is the fact Prior and Bairstow have been excellent at taking the emotion out of it and giving the captain an honest appraisal of each appeal. Obviously they make mistakes but over time I feel we have made less silly reviews, maybe some have been desperate if it is a key batsman but less of the daft ones than some nations.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
This, unless Hameed scores a stack of runs he stays in.
I said the other night but I would seriously consider Cook at 5 and bringing in Gubbins and Hameed if selectors chose a new direction.

But you can play it safe with Stoneman and of course Vince got his 1 in 10 seventy-six and then Malan was alright & could score runs this innings.

1. Hameed
2. Stoneman
3. Root
4. Livingstone
5. Cook
6. Stokes
7. Bairstow

If it were to me I would go straight to Gubbins (obviously picked up an unfortunate injury after scoring back to back hundreds in the north-south series)
If it doesn't work for Livingstone and Cook then it will be Clarke and Lawrence time.
 
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SeamUp

International Coach
Was listening to the Sky Sports Podcast with Giles, Butcher, and Bob

They reckon no other option but to keep status quo with the batting despite the obvious short-comings. Need someone to give reason to drop players. They obviously both name dropped Hameed with the Cook doubts. Butcher also has knowledge of Burns and Gubbins. I remember Nasser Hussain really talking Gubbins up as a potential shock Ashes pick.

Nasser says Vince is worth the investment : England selectors should stick with James Vince, says Nasser Hussain | Cricket News | Sky Sports

They have been up against decent attacks in the winter but at the end of the day there has been some good wickets that have given them every chance to show more.

This article suggests only 4 players are seriously pushing at this point : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket...and-second-test-day-three-live-score-updates/
 

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