Hypocrisy of the "Hard but Fair" Bunch

[vic_orthdox]

Who?

A former Cricket NSW director, talking about player behaviour, having recently been banned from cricket for punching someone on the field.

 

[Shri]

Oh okay. Everyone has a gimmick now.

 

[Spark]

Oh wow I decided to go back and actually read through this thread and uh that was a mistake

***** man were you high when you started posting this line of posts or

 

[Red]

If you do want to complain about the forum atmosphere aspect of this thread (and that definitely exists you're absolutely right), then perhaps you should start by not trying to poison the well. There is nothing wrong with discussing the hypocrisy of a culture. I'm going to replace "Shenanigans" with "Hypocrisy" in the thread title because that's what this is supposed to be about.

This is laughable, for two reasons. "Poisoning the well"? For real? It's so blatantly obvious what this thread is attempting to do, right in the middle of a massive controversy, it's designed to stir the pot more and create emotional reactions.

Secondly, you are so far wrong if you thing Australians are "hypocrites" who think their players do no wrong. Have you read any of the media reactions in Australia or read many Australian FB posts about this incident? Smith, Warner and Bancroft are getting absolutely roasted over here. Yes, we have an expectation of players playing hard but fair, and that is why they are being crucified here at the moment. No one is being hypocritical or thinking they did no wrong, in fact it's the opposite, it's gotten almost way out of hand now in proportion to the incident.

Basically, Australians (and most cultures) don't like cheats, even when they come from within their own ranks.

 

[harsh.ag]

This is laughable, for two reasons. "Poisoning the well"? For real? It's so blatantly obvious what this thread is attempting to do, right in the middle of a massive controversy, it's designed to stir the pot more and create emotional reactions.

Secondly, you are so far wrong if you thing Australians are "hypocrites" who think their players do no wrong. Have you read any of the media reactions in Australia or read many Australian FB posts about this incident? Smith, Warner and Bancroft are getting absolutely roasted over here. Yes, we have an expectation of players playing hard but fair, and that is why they are being crucified here at the moment. No one is being hypocritical or thinking they did no wrong, in fact it's the opposite, it's gotten almost way out of hand now in proportion to the incident.

Basically, Australians (and most cultures) don't like cheats, even when they come from within their own ranks.

And I think you are wrong about this, and so do plenty of others. And that merits a discussion.

 

[GIMH]

Oh wow I decided to go back and actually read through this thread and uh that was a mistake

***** man were you high when you started posting this line of posts or

Heh, just read through it and you nailed my thoughts

 

[Gnske]

And I think you are wrong about this, and so do plenty of others. And that merits a discussion.

Why don't you infract him for it then?

 

[Burgey]

Surely you both know by now that ***** is just a really insophisticated troll? That’s why no one takes umbrage at his efforts. Too transparent. Needs to improve. 4/10.

Anyway, about to board a flight home. Aloha

 

[Pratters]

No discussion of 70s and 80s cricketing icons doing **** things should exclude Sunny’s book on the 76 India tour to the West Indies where he described the locals as a bunch of monkeys.

That episode is, of course, proof that India is crap and a pack of bigots forty years later. Or something.

I love how any thing against Aussies posted by Indians automatically means that it's posted, ' but Gavaskar, bitches...'

 

[Pratters]

So you're trying to tell me that Gavaskar's actual intention when he said that West Indians should go back to the trees where they came from was to say that they were actually Gods?

Ok

Gavaskar praises Trinidadians in the same book.

He says in those pages describing terrible crowd behaviour that these people seem uncivilized and should go back to trees. If he was racist he would be racist to all coloured in the West Indies, I would think. He says that years of civilisation seemed to have no impact on this particular crowd which were throwing bottles and abusing badly and other stuff he describes. I have the book, will post in a few days, am out of town. It certainly seemed a way of telling this crowd was extremely uncivilised. It may have had racist undertones but the point was more about being uncivil than any thing else.

 

[Red]

And I think you are wrong about this, and so do plenty of others. And that merits a discussion.

What about it to you disagree with?

 

[Victor Ian]

I like this thread. No denying it is a troll but respect. Loving the irony of all these posters applying mental disintegration on us Aussie's even though they detest the practise. As I said earlier, ***** is a closet Aussie.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Surely you both know by now that ***** is just a really insophisticated troll? That’s why no one takes umbrage at his efforts. Too transparent. Needs to improve. 4/10.

Anyway, about to board a flight home. Aloha

Sophisticated enough not to use made-up words at least

 

[Daemon]

This is laughable, for two reasons. "Poisoning the well"? For real? It's so blatantly obvious what this thread is attempting to do, right in the middle of a massive controversy, it's designed to stir the pot more and create emotional reactions.

Secondly, you are so far wrong if you thing Australians are "hypocrites" who think their players do no wrong. Have you read any of the media reactions in Australia or read many Australian FB posts about this incident? Smith, Warner and Bancroft are getting absolutely roasted over here. Yes, we have an expectation of players playing hard but fair, and that is why they are being crucified here at the moment. No one is being hypocritical or thinking they did no wrong, in fact it's the opposite, it's gotten almost way out of hand now in proportion to the incident.

Basically, Australians (and most cultures) don't like cheats, even when they come from within their own ranks.

Haha like I said, it has begun

"We don't cross the line but when we do, we punish our players more than anyone else"

Well played CA

 

[Shri]

I and U are next to each other on a keyboard ****.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Haha like I said, it has begun

"We don't cross the line but when we do, we punish our players more than anyone else"

Well played CA

Just because it was easy to predict doesn't mean it isn't true

 

[ankitj]

Lehmann's admission of the need to change the culture in the team shows that there was no real line treated with any kind of seriousness.

 

[anil1405]

Gavaskar praises Trinidadians in the same book.

He says in those pages describing terrible crowd behaviour that these people seem uncivilized and should go back to trees. If he was racist he would be racist to all coloured in the West Indies, I would think. He says that years of civilisation seemed to have no impact on this particular crowd which were throwing bottles and abusing badly and other stuff he describes. I have the book, will post in a few days, am out of town. It certainly seemed a way of telling this crowd was extremely uncivilised. It may have had racist undertones but the point was more about being uncivil than any thing else.

You do realize that even if there is a hint of racism in there then people will perceive it as racist right? Irrespective of what point Gavaskar was trying to make.

 

[Burgey]

I love how any thing against Aussies posted by Indians automatically means that it's posted, ' but Gavaskar, bitches...'

What do you expect when the OP starts the thread with something that happened in 1979 ffs?

 

[Daemon]

What do you expect when the OP starts the thread with something that happened in 1979 ffs?

We should go even further back imo.

None of this would have happened if Britain didn't start invading countries. Maybe we should start a thread on their atrocities from causing famines to stealing the kohinoor and giving the world Graeme Swann.