***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2017/18

[straw man]

So Super Smesh final this afternoon - ND have made it despite as Howsie said, not looking the side best suited to T20. Their biggest players have performed though.

CD look like favourites on form though. That batting order....

 

[vandem]

So Super Smesh final this afternoon - ND have made it despite as Howsie said, not looking the side best suited to T20. Their biggest players have performed though.

CD look like favourites on form though. That batting order....

That batting order.... is a little short? Correct. Quality, not quantity.

Interesting selection strategy differences between the two sides, CD going for 5 batsman and Cleaver, and hoping that 5 specialist bowlers can take wickets, while ND bat deep and rely on more overs from the batsman (at Pukekura Park was 10 overs from Devcich + Mitchell + Kelly).

 

[Flem274*]

ND side looks perfectly suited to this tired old deck. Spinners out their ears.

 

[straw man]

That batting order.... is a little short? Correct. Quality, not quantity.

Interesting selection strategy differences between the two sides, CD going for 5 batsman and Cleaver, and hoping that 5 specialist bowlers can take wickets, while ND bat deep and rely on more overs from the batsman (at Pukekura Park was 10 overs from Devcich + Mitchell + Kelly).

True, it is short with Wheeler at 7 even if he's in form with the bat. I don't remember that from earlier in the season - are they missing someone from earlier in that top order?

 

[vandem]

True, it is short with Wheeler at 7 even if he's in form with the bat. I don't remember that from earlier in the season - are they missing someone from earlier in that top order?

CD have played 5 specialist bowlers all season.

From the top 6, Worker has bowled 4 overs in 5 games (less bowling workload than previous seasons), Bruce 6 overs in 8 games.

 

[Kippax]

ND side looks perfectly suited to this tired old deck. Spinners out their ears.

Yeah CD brought Milne into their camp at the last minute too, they seemed to be thinking ND would be magnanimous hosts and put the final on the sporty Patumahoe, which was naive tstl.

 

[Flem274*]

we really didn't need to get billy bowdened just then

ajaz patel is a huge player for CD today. CD could easily spend 20 overs fighting to a sub par total only for devcich to biff away on a surface where wheeler and tickner won't be able to knock his head off

 

[Flem274*]

into the bowlers now. game over.

 

[Flem274*]

i think the commentators should consider it's less about natural games and confidence and more about suffocating block bashers on a slow pitch

 

[The Hutt Rec]

This couldn't have gone much worse for CD.

 

[vandem]

This couldn't have gone much worse for CD.

Um, yes. Now they get to bowl. :-)

 

[Ghost]

Devcich would have to be the unofficial player of the tournament. Highest run scorer and second highest wicket taker

 

[Kippax]

Yeah part of me really wants to put together a compilation of Devcich that makes him look so misleadingly good, that he actually attracts a bite in the IPL auction. I love it when Anton gets a faint whiff of following Munro's trail into becoming a serious professional, adored by the masses.

 

[Ghost]

How would a tournament team look? Seifert, Devcich, Young, Chapman, O’Donnell, Mitchell, Fletcher, Sodhi, Rance, Tickner, Lister

 

[Kippax]

Yeah Wheeler was pacey but his ER was actually rubbish, wasn't it (9.34).

 

[Immenso]

Some detail about what NZC have been doing the last 2 years with their U19s, while not actually playing any YODIs.

Understanding New Zealand's talent-grooming system - ESPNcricinfo

 

[Flem274*]

that was a really long way of saying they go to camp

i think the current team is succeeding in spite of the no real games programme, not because of. camps are no substitute for games and it's annoying nzc are getting rewards for fluffing about.

 

[Kippax]

Yeah I'd agree that they're succeeding because they're at home, primarily. Go back to Bangladesh and I think we'd see Nepal and whoever else we lost to last time threaten again.

 

[Flem274*]

I was thinking today while making this coffee that Tim Seifert is probably the most impressive young player in domestic cricket.

NZ gets a bit obsessed with role players. It's nice to have a defined job, but it risks players becoming mechanical and one dimensional. See the inability of Ferguson and Milne to swing the ball because they're the 'fast bowler' role, or the refusal to select Chapman because they already have Taylor and Latham.

The best international players are adaptable. Adaptable NZ player is usually shorthand for bits and pieces anti-cricketer rather than someone who can adjust to any situation. McCullum went from a useful hitter to a proper world class batsman because he learnt to bat time.

Seifert, supposedly the new McCullum, has played grinding knocks for ND. He's opened the batting and played in the middle order. He succeeds in many situations despite his reputation for power hitting. I'm really optimistic for him because he's good and he plays for the golden province so he's likely to get a chance.

Also if Ben Wheeler ever stays fit and lands 6 from 6 in the corridor we'll have a serious prospect looming behind Boult and Wagner. He's sharp, swings it and looks like he hits the deck a bit harder than Boult. Boult is miles ahead though because he doesn't give away four balls.

 

[Zinzan]

I was thinking today while making this coffee that Tim Seifert is probably the most impressive young player in domestic cricket.
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I've been impressed with Seifert too, reminds me a little of a young McCullum, but no more impressed than the likes Chapman or Phillips tbh.

There's many a talented player going around NZ cricketing traps atm.

Happy days.