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***Official*** West Indies in New Zealand 2017

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
What is he bowling? 120k low-bounce outswingers is what I expect from Munro.
Off spin off a long run and no pivot.

I'm not exaggerating the extent of its offspinness either. It's not like when Styris started bowling that 110-115km/hr stuff and people called it "off spin off a long run" as I just did. Numerous balls from Munro have been below 100km/hr, and he's probably averaging about 102. Marlon Samuels would've had higher speedometer readings when he last bowled.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I remember him bowling on test debut too but even that stuff didn't look like something that would get someone an Auckland gig. I've seen Munro bowling live and wouldn't look twice if he was rolling those down in Senior As. I'm probably just over-estimating NZ domestic cricket.
He played for New Zealand Under 19s as a specialist bowler too. He wasn't just a random journeyman plugging a hole in a domestic side; he was seriously rated as a promising young bowler. I've always imagined he bowled a bit quicker than he did on Test debut -- maybe early 130s.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
He played for New Zealand Under 19s as a specialist bowler too. He wasn't just a random journeyman plugging a hole in a domestic side; he was seriously rated as a promising young bowler. I've always imagined he bowled a bit quicker than he did on Test debut -- maybe early 130s.
I find it so hard to see because he has nothing that you would imagine would catch the selector's eye in a young quick. He's short, not very athletic, his run-up and action (even before he went to these off-breaks) scream "part-timer". Yet somehow youth selectors were seeing that and thinking "here's our next quick" and somehow missed the fact that he has one of the best eyes on the planet.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
I remember him bowling on test debut too but even that stuff didn't look like something that would get someone an Auckland gig. I've seen Munro bowling live and wouldn't look twice if he was rolling those down in Senior As. I'm probably just over-estimating NZ domestic cricket.
I can't understand it either - sounds like a selection oddity. Tbf at that time Auckland loved selecting medium pacers that do a bit of this and that - Grobbelar and wasn't CDG selected as more of a bowler initially too?

Off spin off a long run and no pivot.

I'm not exaggerating the extent of its offspinness either. It's not like when Styris started bowling that 110-115km/hr stuff and people called it "off spin off a long run" as I just did. Numerous balls from Munro have been below 100km/hr, and he's probably averaging about 102. Marlon Samuels would've had higher speedometer readings when he last bowled.
Styris is immediately who I was thinking of - have always wanted Munro to bowl more like Styris or Nathan Astle. Munro has clearly looked within himself, studied the Tao Te Dibbly Dobbly, opened his heart and found enlightenment in being at one with the 100km/h ball that travels along the one true trajectory, the wobble.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
He played for New Zealand Under 19s as a specialist bowler too. He wasn't just a random journeyman plugging a hole in a domestic side; he was seriously rated as a promising young bowler. I've always imagined he bowled a bit quicker than he did on Test debut -- maybe early 130s.
At NZ U19s he batted below Greg Morgan. So more bowler, less batter than young Morgan. If you can remember what he was like.

I used to group this 2 together in my head. Young Auckland bowling All Rounders who you never actually saw due to Adams/Mills/Martin.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
At NZ U19s he batted below Greg Morgan. So more bowler, less batter than young Morgan. If you can remember what he was like.

I used to group this 2 together in my head. Young Auckland bowling All Rounders who you never actually saw due to Adams/Mills/Martin.
So weird now when fat cities and reverse sweep maximums are so ***y, and skiddy 120kph bowling is certainly not. I guess 2006 in NZ was a simpler time when brisk medium pace "in the right areas" was a valid sort of specialist bowling and rank slogging was for bunnies only regardless of how many said bunny was actually middling.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I can't understand it either - sounds like a selection oddity. Tbf at that time Auckland loved selecting medium pacers that do a bit of this and that - Grobbelar and wasn't CDG selected as more of a bowler initially too?



Styris is immediately who I was thinking of - have always wanted Munro to bowl more like Styris or Nathan Astle. Munro has clearly looked within himself, studied the Tao Te Dibbly Dobbly, opened his heart and found enlightenment in being at one with the 100km/h ball that travels along the one true trajectory, the wobble.
This is much more off spin than either Styris or Astle ever were, even at Styris's offspinningest. It's not a mix of wobbly seamers and off cutters; it's just off breaks, every ball, with a medium pacer's run up. It's like he's decided to bowl offies now but hasn't got around to changing anything other than the grip and release yet. He's bowling slower than some other part time spinners. :p The closest comparison is Garunaratne, I think.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
This guy Powell's domestic and international records don't shed much light on what sort of cricketer he is supposed to be. Basically looks on paper like he does nothing.
 

Mike5181

International Captain
This guy Powell's domestic and international records don't shed much light on what sort of cricketer he is supposed to be. Basically looks on paper like he does nothing.
I don't know, his List A record stacks up pretty well against half of the people they seem to pick. Great strike rate, mid-30s average if you take away the international stuff, and seems to hit a lot of sixes. Reasonable guy to have down at 7 to finish things in theory.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
I don't know, his List A record stacks up pretty well against half of the people they seem to pick. Great strike rate, mid-30s average if you take away the international stuff, and seems to hit a lot of sixes. Reasonable guy to have down at 7 to finish things in theory.
Fair point. It's a pretty trash record in all other aspects but his 50-over batting is ok over a reasonable sample size I guess.
 

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