***Official*** 2nd Test at Adelaide

[adub]

No I don't think it was defensive at all. Aggressive bold attacking move.

But probably too bold considering the pitch isn't anything like the green strip for the d/n test two years ago, or even like last year's.

And then the early bowling wasn't great.

I get the feeling the Poms might have bought the hype about the pink ball swinging.

 

[Spark]

No I don't think it was defensive at all. Aggressive bold attacking move.

But probably too bold considering the pitch isn't anything like the green strip for the d/n test two years ago, or even like last year's.

And then the early bowling wasn't great.

I get the feeling the Poms might have bought the hype about the pink ball swinging.

The radio comms were speculating that England may have done it on the basis of the team batting first losing the last two Adelaide Tests which... surely you have to go on more than that?

 

[Woodster]

I’m sure with the amount of information collated and available to teams these days that that particular stat would not have been the sole reason for the decision made, although stranger things have happened.

 

[Woodster]

It's on the verge of matchwinning when you only need a bit over 300 to be well in front. It's not a 400 pitch.

It's not a platform, it's most of the work done. Just need to not collapse and you really should be looking to dominate the game from there.

It’s most of the work done in terms of targets for a first innings score, it’s a platform to go on and actually win the Test.

 

[Burgey]

Not a chance Australia bat without losing a wicket for an hour tomorrow morning with a new ball and score 30 runs.

They only lost a wicket this morning through a run out. I’m telling you, 300 in these conditions is 430-450 odd on old Adelaide. If they lose 6/20 tomorrow it doesn’t mean they aren’t a mile in front now. They are. Getting choice of conditions and taking four in a day and night with a pink ball when it’s overcast puts you a mile behind at stumps day one.

Edit: particularly when it’s meant to be similar conditions tomorrow

 

[Compton]

They only lost a wicket this morning through a run out. I’m telling you, 300 in these conditions is 430-450 odd on old Adelaide. If they lose 6/20 tomorrow it doesn’t mean they aren’t a mile in front now. They are. Getting choice of conditions and taking four in a day and night with a pink ball when it’s overcast puts you a mile behind at stumps day one.

Edit: particularly when it’s meant to be similar conditions tomorrow

Sorry, my post isn’t all that clear.

The point I was making was that if Australia get through an hour unscathed, that they’d score quite a bit over 30 runs.

 

[Burgey]

Ahh I see. My bad

 

[Cow]

Burgey. Aus are not a mile in front. That's crazy talk.

 

[StephenZA]

Burgey. Aus are not a mile in front. That's crazy talk.

1.6 km in front?

 

[Burgey]

They are mate. In those conditions they are. Its doing plenty.

How was the surf btw?

 

[Spark]

They only lost a wicket this morning through a run out. I’m telling you, 300 in these conditions is 430-450 odd on old Adelaide. If they lose 6/20 tomorrow it doesn’t mean they aren’t a mile in front now. They are. Getting choice of conditions and taking four in a day and night with a pink ball when it’s overcast puts you a mile behind at stumps day one.

Edit: particularly when it’s meant to be similar conditions tomorrow

They didn't lose any wickets this morning

 

[Gnske]

Burgey. Aus are not a mile in front. That's crazy talk.

Agreed.

They're way further ahead.

 

[GIMH]

I’d agree that Oz are in front but would also expect us to take a couple of early poles. If we do that, we are at least in the contest. Going to need Root to come to the party with the bat to have a chance I’d day

 

[Compton]

Not sure why everyone is expecting loads of wickets tomorrow morning. Assuming the new ball doesn’t go wild, it’ll probably be the best batting conditions of the match.

 

[Woodster]

Surely Handscomb with his technique is going to struggle against Broad and Anderson with a new ball? Not if they’re too short again obviously.

Get one and then we’re into Tim Paine and the rest, I don’t think it’s beyond possibilities to think there may be a couple of early wickets. I for one haven’t suggested there will be ‘loads’ of wickets but a couple of quick ones should set the day up nicely.

 

[Gob]

Surely Handscomb with his technique is going to struggle against Broad and Anderson with a new ball? Not if they’re too short again obviously.

Get one and then we’re into Tim Paine and the rest, I don’t think it’s beyond possibilities to think there may be a couple of early wickets. I for one haven’t suggested there will be ‘loads’ of wickets but a couple of quick ones should set the day up nicely.

He has a weird technique but he has scored runs with it in similar conditions. He might as well fail but he knows what he is doing. Bit similar to Smith in a way.

 

[Gob]

Ideally Australia bat for two sessions and get 350 with England having to bat under lights

 

[MW1304]

Need to do what Australia did to us in the first Test, to put it simply.

Then pray when we bat.

 

[Spark]

He has a weird technique but he has scored runs with it in similar conditions. He might as well fail but he knows what he is doing. Bit similar to Smith in a way.

Smith is pretty effective at getting on the front foot when he needs to. People have been kinda spoilt by Tendulkar/Ponting/Sanga style front foot techniques where they get right out of the crease.

Although it is kind of interesting that Australian batting hasn't produced any stereotypically Australian batsmen of note wrt really pushing forward on the front foot all the time since Hussey/Clarke/Watson. Since then, even Warner likes to hang back a lot on the back foot, doesn't get that far out of his crease. IIRC vic posted something a few years back about how there had been a trend in Aus coaching in the last few years away from that really big Ponting/Hayden-style front foot movement in favour of a smaller front foot movement (even Clarke's front foot movement got less and less pronounced through his career) and weight transfer right over your front knee.

 

[Woodster]

He has a weird technique but he has scored runs with it in similar conditions. He might as well fail but he knows what he is doing. Bit similar to Smith in a way.

I’m sure he has made runs when it’s looked unbelievably difficult to see how. He has a method and it has worked for him pretty consistently at a lower level, just feel if he bats like he did today he’s going to get exposed especially if the new ball does a bit.