***Official*** 2nd Test at Adelaide

[Top_Cat]

Smith is pretty effective at getting on the front foot when he needs to. People have been kinda spoilt by Tendulkar/Ponting/Sanga style front foot techniques where they get right out of the crease.

Although it is kind of interesting that Australian batting hasn't produced any stereotypically Australian batsmen of note wrt really pushing forward on the front foot all the time since Hussey/Clarke/Watson. Since then, even Warner likes to hang back a lot on the back foot, doesn't get that far out of his crease. IIRC vic posted something a few years back about how there had been a trend in Aus coaching in the last few years away from that really big Ponting/Hayden-style front foot movement in favour of a smaller front foot movement (even Clarke's front foot movement got less and less pronounced through his career) and weight transfer right over your front knee.

Consequence of being T20 players, for mine. It’s kinda shocking how much power Warner and Smith get on their drives through the off but they can’t fully commit when playing the shorter form because of that need to make late changes to the shot. Modern bats still give them the power to get to the fence without needing to get the foot entirely to the pitch and lean into the drive. Hussey’s a decent example of a guy who didn’t have a cover drive for many years but changed his technique. Have him starting now in the T20 era with a modern bat and he’d probably have made his initial technique work in a similar manner to Smith and Warner instead of changing it.

Give em an 80s GN Powerspot and I doubt they’d score as many boundaries through the arc between cover and mid-off.

 

[oblongballs]

It really is weird. Everyone can see, commentators, fans and the players out on the field - you get wickets if you pitch the ball up a bit and let it swing. Yet, apart from bits and pieces of spells from Jimmy, Broad and Woakes, we have been far too short. You only go short when you have genuine pace and at 80mph it is pointless. Who is coaching these lads?

 

[Stapel]

Not sure why everyone is expecting loads of wickets tomorrow morning. Assuming the new ball doesn’t go wild, it’ll probably be the best batting conditions of the match.

It's not the ball, the conditions or the light. It's the batsmen! I'm not impressed.
I'm quite surprised March & especially Handscomb have survived. As a neutral, I simply can't see the Ozzy batsmen go anywhere.

 

[Gob]

It's not the ball, the conditions or the light. It's the batsmen! I'm not impressed.
I'm quite surprised March & especially Handscomb have survived. As a neutral, I simply can't see the Ozzy batsmen go anywhere.

Marsh looked brilliant. Did you even watch it?

 

[Compton]

Yeah I’m not Marsh’s biggest fan, and he is wont to absolutely blow it, but he’s looked very assured at the crease.

 

[S.Kennedy]

Root, a Hussain/Ponting moment?

 

[Debris]

Smith is pretty effective at getting on the front foot when he needs to. People have been kinda spoilt by Tendulkar/Ponting/Sanga style front foot techniques where they get right out of the crease.

Although it is kind of interesting that Australian batting hasn't produced any stereotypically Australian batsmen of note wrt really pushing forward on the front foot all the time since Hussey/Clarke/Watson. Since then, even Warner likes to hang back a lot on the back foot, doesn't get that far out of his crease. IIRC vic posted something a few years back about how there had been a trend in Aus coaching in the last few years away from that really big Ponting/Hayden-style front foot movement in favour of a smaller front foot movement (even Clarke's front foot movement got less and less pronounced through his career) and weight transfer right over your front knee.

I always thought the really pushing forward on the front foot was an English batting trait and those guys you mentioned were outliers. The current Australian players feel more like they play like the traditional Australian batsmen. Waughs, Chappells, Borders et al. really did not get that far forward.

 

[GIMH]

Root, a Hussain/Ponting moment?

Nah. Both of those were met with massive day one scores

 

[Stapel]

Marsh looked brilliant. Did you even watch it?

Every single ball since the rain break.

I'm willing to admit that my memory is very clouded by Handscomb surviving 80 deliveries.
Yet, I wasn't impressed by Marsh. That very very controlled hook shot apart, that is.

 

[Adders]

Really? I haven't seen much of Marsh in the past but watching him yesterday he looks every bit a test batsmen and I was wondering why he cops so much criticism on here.

 

[morgieb]

Really? I haven't seen much of Marsh in the past but watching him yesterday he looks every bit a test batsmen and I was wondering why he cops so much criticism on here.

That's the thing, 50% of the time he looks like a batsman that averages 50+. It's just that the other 50% of the time he gets a score under 10.

 

[Gnske]

Really? I haven't seen much of Marsh in the past but watching him yesterday he looks every bit a test batsmen and I was wondering why he cops so much criticism on here.

Great stuff.

 

[Tangles]

Gnske level trolling from Adders.

 

[Adders]

??????

 

[stephen]

Really? I haven't seen much of Marsh in the past but watching him yesterday he looks every bit a test batsmen and I was wondering why he cops so much criticism on here.

Marsh cops criticism precisely because he looks so good. A batsman who looks as good as Marsh does you would expect to have an average over 50. He always looks like he has all day to play his shots and when he does play them they look exquisite.

He'll make an incredible century against a great bowling attack in the first game of the summer but then he'll get out for under 10 five times in a row against Indian fast bowlers.

He gets hate because he's so frustrating and seemingly gets a free pass from the selectors. Presumably the free pass comes from how good he looks when he dies make runs.

 

[the big bambino]

Marsh would be the first player an Englishman would pick for Australia.

 

[Gnske]

??????

Come on, take some credit that was a great quip.

 

[Cow]

Oh my days. I have a biblical hangover

 

[Burgey]

Shouldn’t mix alcohol with *****.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Not easy when you’re mercilessly bullied for the whole week leading up to the game.