Lillian Thomson
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Speaking of Sir Geoffrey I take it that he makes The Flair XI on the same grounds that Sunny makes the Blocker XI based solely on his innings in the 1965 Gillette Cup Final.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Richards B
Hutton
Bradman
Richards V
Tendulkar
Sobers
Knott
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
Murali
Hutton
Bradman
Richards V
Tendulkar
Sobers
Knott
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
Murali
fredfertang
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If he'd had the prospect of Closey's bat up his back passage a bit more often I expect he'd have a completely different legacySpeaking of Sir Geoffrey I take it that he makes The Flair XI on the same grounds that Sunny makes the Blocker XI based solely on his innings in the 1965 Gillette Cup Final.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Are people with 10k runs the only players to choose from?
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Slifer
International Captain
They may not be great bowlers overall but Smith did do very well in India vs India. Also, I seem to recall Smith also doing well vs a borderline great RSA attack in 2014 ( Steyn, Morkel, Philander) in RSA.
I've been guilty of this myself but underestimating this current generation of batsmen but Smith really is a different animal. Besides Tendulkar and a peak Ponting, I can't think of many great batsmen of the recent past who'd have the conversion rate, adaptability and high average that Smith does after a decent number of tests.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Distalgesic England XI
1. Hutton
2. Hobbs
3. Compton
4. May
5. Hammond
6. Sobers
7. Knott
8. Snow
9. Trueman
10.Underwood
11.Willis
1. Hutton
2. Hobbs
3. Compton
4. May
5. Hammond
6. Sobers
7. Knott
8. Snow
9. Trueman
10.Underwood
11.Willis
mr_mister
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
no dont you understand no modern batsman will ever live up to the greats from yesteryear even if they end up averaging far more because REASONS
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Dominated Ashwin and Jadeja in their own conditions.
the big bambino
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srbhkshk
International Captain
The ODI XI is a brilliant test XI, only weak links are Dhoni and possibly Pollock. I think the test series will go 1-1 and the ODI 4-1.
stephen
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He's only a weak link when compared to the likes of McGrath and Marshall.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Not in any normal test XI but in ATG XI he falls a little short I'd say. It's just comparative though, can certainly hold his own.
OverratedSanity
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de Villiers looks much more out of place than Pollock if that was a test XI.
ankitj
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On AB, I wonder what took him (relatively) long to get recognized as a monstrously talented player? I look at some old matches and go 'Oh AB was part of this match, I never noticed'! Examples - SA vs AUS 434 vs 438 match, India vs SA test where Sreesanth owned SA, and 2007 worldT20 India vs SA game where SA choked. He was nothing special for first 4-5 years, but given what he turned into, it feels odd that he was once a player that went somewhat unnoticed.
stephen
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He's still averaging over 50 after over 100 tests which certainly makes him no slouch in the test department. He's probably among the top 20-30 test batsmen of all time.
Neither he nor Pollock are out of place in these lists but they are fractionally overshadowed by the other names on the list.
In any case the tests would not be one sided at all. The ODIs would. If the test team were given Gilly or Dhoni things would even up a bit but they'd need Ponting or Tendulkar to make a real difference.