***Official*** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2015

[TheJammyTurtle]

Baz
Marty G
Kane
Rossco
Nicholls
Santner
Ronchi
Bracewell
Milne
2 of Sodhi/Henry/McClenaghan

For the first 2 ODIs I would think until Southee and Boult are back

 

[vandem]

I'd be interested to see Ronchi at #5. He's good enough to play 50 - 80 ball innings if necessary. Would take the pressure off Nicholls / Santner.

But don't think it will happen. Assume Nichols and Worker will share #5 slot while we wait for Elliott to return.

 

[hendrix]

Im a little bit nervous that our batting lineup is to top heavy like it was when ross was captain. With brendon going ballistic at the top we need someone at 5 who can control the innings if we are 50/3.
I would argue that person is BJ Watling, but it looks like Santner and Worker will have that role.

Problem with be solved if Tom Latham opened and Baz went back to 5.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

I don't know ****.

this post is lacking in intent

 

[Skyliner]

Cricket: Henry Nicholls gets Black Caps call up - Sport - NZ Herald News

"We've got a few batsmen who just on cusp really of pushing their claims, and there's a few guys around the top of the order who are good strokeplayers who Gav (fellow selector Larsen) or I could pick any of, and be confident they could do a job.
"We're in a nice position," Hesson added.

 

[SteveNZ]

Henry Nicolls has been named in the ODI team apparently. He's the only uncapped player. Santner and Sodhi the spin options and no Neesham or Anderson. Somehow Ronchi is still there....

Who else would keep? Latham? Tim Seifert?

 

[SteveNZ]

Why can't Santner just play instead of Craig though

It's all well and good playing Santner ahead of Craig, especially in NZ conditions doing a holding job with the ball in the main part on decently seamer-friendly decks. The job he did in Dunedin was absolutely fine (with the ball) and probably something Mark wouldn't have. So if he gets picked ongoing, that's fine with me. He proved me wrong in Adelaide especially with strength of character and mentality, even though he's not a Test #6 nor a Test quality spinner.

However, if we pick him, there's to be no sooking if we get on a ragging 5th (or 1st if Nagpur is to be considered) day pitch and Santner can't knock them over. That's not who he is at the moment. He's an ideal foil for the seamers in holding up an end, maybe getting 1-2 with pressure to allow the bowlers a lesser work load.

 

[SteveNZ]

And while I'm on a posting binge, just watching the highlights...was there conjecture around the full toss Wagner LBW overturned? I know Ian Taylor will clutch his doctorate and tell me I'm a thicko throwing accusations from my uneducated position on the couch, but bull**** that ball was following the line it showed on DRS. Absolutely no way

 

[vandem]

Who else would keep? Latham? Tim Seifert?

Good question about ODI / T20 keeper after Ronchi's form slips or he retires.

Do we need a couple of years from de Boorder until Siefert is ready? Do we use Watling in the #5 Elliott nurdling role which leaves space at #6 (and #7?) for hitters (Munro / Anderson etc).

Latham is too important as a test opener to be messed around with short form keeper roles.

 

[hendrix]

It's all well and good playing Santner ahead of Craig, especially in NZ conditions doing a holding job with the ball in the main part on decently seamer-friendly decks. The job he did in Dunedin was absolutely fine (with the ball) and probably something Mark wouldn't have. So if he gets picked ongoing, that's fine with me. He proved me wrong in Adelaide especially with strength of character and mentality, even though he's not a Test #6 nor a Test quality spinner.

However, if we pick him, there's to be no sooking if we get on a ragging 5th (or 1st if Nagpur is to be considered) day pitch and Santner can't knock them over. That's not who he is at the moment. He's an ideal foil for the seamers in holding up an end, maybe getting 1-2 with pressure to allow the bowlers a lesser work load.

Actually think Santner would be ideal on a raging turner, in the same way that Jadeja is brilliant on those pitches.

It's the more dead wickets that Craig will be better at coaxing something out of.

 

[Howsie]

Who else would keep? Latham? Tim Seifert?

Watling. You may have heard of him....

 

[Daemon]

Actually think Santner would be ideal on a raging turner, in the same way that Jadeja is brilliant on those pitches.

It's the more dead wickets that Craig will be better at coaxing something out of.

Yep. Craig could be useful on slow tracks like in the UAE like he's shown before, but even then it's a gamble playing him because there's a high chance he'll leak easy runs.

 

[Prince EWS]

It's all well and good playing Santner ahead of Craig, especially in NZ conditions doing a holding job with the ball in the main part on decently seamer-friendly decks. The job he did in Dunedin was absolutely fine (with the ball) and probably something Mark wouldn't have. So if he gets picked ongoing, that's fine with me. He proved me wrong in Adelaide especially with strength of character and mentality, even though he's not a Test #6 nor a Test quality spinner.

However, if we pick him, there's to be no sooking if we get on a ragging 5th (or 1st if Nagpur is to be considered) day pitch and Santner can't knock them over. That's not who he is at the moment. He's an ideal foil for the seamers in holding up an end, maybe getting 1-2 with pressure to allow the bowlers a lesser work load.

I think it's just become really important that McCullum does a good job of reading the pitch before he names the eleven, now. There are definitely surfaces I'd rather have Craig on than Santner, but to be fair most of those surfaces are ones you'd probably want to play two spinners on anyway, so I think Santner should have a bit of a mortgage on a place for a while even when Craig is also playing.

The only pitches I think I'd only want one spinner on but want it to be Craig would be the ones that only really turned late in the game due to deterioration. These pitches seem rarer across the world than they were when I first started following international cricket, but some of the venues in England immediately spring to mind, where I probably wouldn't play Santner at all. I do think it has to be somewhat horses for courses now and it's going to be really important to read the pitch correctly.

 

[Moss]

Good question about ODI / T20 keeper after Ronchi's form slips or he retires.

Do we need a couple of years from de Boorder until Siefert is ready? Do we use Watling in the #5 Elliott nurdling role which leaves space at #6 (and #7?) for hitters (Munro / Anderson etc).

Latham is too important as a test opener to be messed around with short form keeper roles.

Watling would be my pick, given that Elliott seems to have indicated the World T20 might just be a good place to sign off. Also I think BJ's batting would benefit from the added game time as opposed to those long breaks between NZ test series.

Have only really watched de Boorder when the Volts were NZ representatives in a couple of editions of the Champions League, looked alright. He appears to have been a regular on A tours so can't be too far off the selectors minds.

Tom Blundell seems to be the incumbent in limited over 'A' teams at the moment, but I know even less about him.

 

[Moss]

On Dunedin: I think Lanka acquitted themselves pretty well, this was a far weaker side than the one that toured a year ago, and they did make NZ work hard for the win. In some was this was a sort of template for a 'respectable away loss'. something that SA in India and the Windies in Aus didn't manage last week. Herath could be a bigger factor at Hamilton if the pitch plays to reputation.

Solid from NZ, signs of real test match confidence in the declaration and the fact they were able to win without some of the key players being at their absolute best. Thrilled for Wagner, he's increasingly reminding me of Matthew Hoggard in the kinds of performances he's putting in. (Hard to imagine this was his first test of the year)

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

However, if we pick him, there's to be no sooking if we get on a ragging 5th (or 1st if Nagpur is to be considered) day pitch and Santner can't knock them over.

Optimistic.

 

[SteveNZ]

Watling. You may have heard of him....

Championed him for years, ever since Sri Lanka. But it ain't happening

 

[straw man]

I think we're missing the bigger picture. Namely, who bats number 5 after McCullum goes?

Could Anderson bat no.5 and we keep the same team below him? Of course, Milne for Bracewell would be very tempting.

If Anderson is outscoring the other contenders when McCullum goes then he could get a crack at five. I'd probably prefer a Will Young type but FC runs should dictate.

Anderson at 5 is also going full allroundersville:

4: Watling
5: Anderson
6: Santner
7: Neesham
8: Craig/Astle
9: Milne
10: Southee
11: Boult

A little excessive but woteva

 

[Hurricane]

Moss makes a very good point. What do we know about the Hamilton pitch. By memory one year with narine it really turned. Other years it has behaved. Craig will come into consideration.

 

[Days of Grace]

Perish the thought, but if one of Kane or Ross were ruled out on the eve of the second test who would you call up?