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***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2015/16

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Having two Associative spuds seems a strange one for a region Howsie tells us is particularly fertile. Van der Gurgen must've been picked because 'he sure has a pretty mouth, boy'.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Love seeing that beautiful braced front leg from Ferguson. Pity he had to put Corey out for another 2 months, but there's plenty to work with.
 

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Having two Associative spuds seems a strange one for a region Howsie tells us is particularly fertile. Van der Gurgen must've been picked because 'he sure has a pretty mouth, boy'.
Represents the new, Fox Kennedy Co wearing, can somehow hit 140kmh, generation of agribusiness.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Love seeing that beautiful braced front leg from Ferguson. Pity he had to put Corey out for another 2 months, but there's plenty to work with.
did he land on on corey? that's pretty impressive considering anderson can be ryder-esque with his disdainful lolswats to short bowling.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, still remember JD's second game, when England decided on the tried and true method of dealing with NZ front-foot hacks - bomb them with bouncers until they feebly surrender their wicket. And Ryder spent the next half hour gleefully hooking his way to a 35 ball half century.

Sigh, I'm sad now.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Love seeing that beautiful braced front leg from Ferguson. Pity he had to put Corey out for another 2 months, but there's plenty to work with.
2 months, bastard.

Does that guarantee Santner the #6 Test spot through the summer, regardless of pitch condition?
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
2 months, bastard.

Does that guarantee Santner the #6 Test spot through the summer, regardless of pitch condition?
Neesham is fit again, he was kind of incumbent before his injury, even if he was totally benign in Brisbane. Santner may play in Dunedin but wouldn't be surprised if they call Neesham into the squad for Test 2.
 
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Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Neesham is fit again, he was kind of incumbent before his injury, even if he was totally benign in Brisbane.
My reservations about Santner's lack of FC batting experience notwithstanding - Santner's batting > Neesham's batting from a technique perspective.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
My reservations about Santner's lack of FC batting experience notwithstanding - Santner's batting > Neesham's batting from a technique perspective.
Indeed but Neesham has more ability to adapt than Santner - because he's already got that experience Santner doesn't.

As good as Santner looked with the bat (and he looked great), he will easily get tied up when he can't play his textbook strokes like he did in Adelaide.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
I find them remarkably similar players too. Neesham's technique is actually quite correct and their attitude (err, ego) is pretty much similar. A like for like swap except one bowls spin.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Neesham's not named in the two test series, so Santner must seize his chance. As for the 3rd all rounder - I have a very sad suspicion that we may have seen the last of Corey Anderson. He will be a walking injury for the rest of his career I suspect.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Neesham is fit again, he was kind of incumbent before his injury, even if he was totally benign in Brisbane. Santner may play in Dunedin but wouldn't be surprised if they call Neesham into the squad for Test 2.
He might be in the squad, but picking a guy who had a recurrence of the back injury (exact same injury? Unsure) without any time for remedial work to his action seems pretty risky if you want overs out of him - which they do. And he won't have any 4-day cricket before then. Australian series at the very earliest. And he'll have to have scored runs.

Cane, I think that's a bit soon on Corey. Last night was an acute injury that could've happened to anyone. No doubt he might need to change his body shape, or his action, or something, but how many medium pace batting all-rounders have had their careers ended in their early 20s? Not many. He'll be back.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
He might be in the squad, but picking a guy who had a recurrence of the back injury (exact same injury? Unsure) without any time for remedial work to his action seems pretty risky if you want overs out of him - which they do. And he won't have any 4-day cricket before then. Australian series at the very earliest. And he'll have to have scored runs.

Cane, I think that's a bit soon on Corey. Last night was an acute injury that could've happened to anyone. No doubt he might need to change his body shape, or his action, or something, but how many medium pace batting all-rounders have had their careers ended in their early 20s? Not many. He'll be back.
How do you spell back problems? Maybe he will remodel his action in his 30s and become h4x in domestix but be too old to be considered. He, according to ONE network NEWS, the source of all truth and goodness, was having trouble getting back to 135 again this time around and was slowly working on rolling his arm over. At no point did he mention remodelling his action.

Your comment on body shape is astute. He is a huge man. Unless he takes up yoga in a big way then he is always going to be placing his muscle groupings (and then his back when his muscles can't cope) under tremendous pressure.

His only hope is to drop down to 120s which he was starting to do anyway. At the peak of his powers he was a dynamo and a genuine ODI all rounder. He must become a batting allrounder that bowls a bit. Or even a pure batsman. Nothing wrong with bowling dibbly dobblers either. Worked for many a NZ bowler.

Remember his disc problem was more severe than Boult's. I am calling it now. Corey Anderson the all rounder is finished. Just like Gandalf dissapeared and had to be reborn.
 
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SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
As an all-rounder, I guess that's up in the air. He needs to be at 135km or so, as he stands right now, because he doesn't do that much with it nor bang it in like Jake Oram did. But that's not to say he can't work on it and become a different bowler. He's good enough to be an international #5, and that might be where his focus goes. Who knows.

But yeah on backs, it's particularly concerning that both of our seaming all-rounders have back injuries, one of our strike bowlers missed a few months with one and the other has ongoing issues, albeit more minor. We don't need the Academy years to repeat themselves due to inferior coaching and biomechanics. The worst trait of the Academy years was 140km away swingers being remodelled into 130km inswingers, and nursing injuries. Basically exactly what Jacob Duffy is.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
How do you spell back problems? Maybe he will remodel his action in his 30s and become h4x in domestix but be too old to be considered. He, according to ONE network NEWS, the source of all truth and goodness, was having trouble getting back to 135 again this time around and was slowly working on rolling his arm over. At no point did he mention remodelling his action.

Your comment on body shape is astute. He is a huge man. Unless he takes up yoga in a big way then he is always going to be placing his muscle groupings (and then his back when his muscles can't cope) under tremendous pressure.

His only hope is to drop down to 120s which he was starting to do anyway. At the peak of his powers he was a dynamo and a genuine ODI all rounder. He must become a batting allrounder that bowls a bit. Or even a pure batsman. Nothing wrong with bowling dibbly dobblers either. Worked for many a NZ bowler.

Remember his disc problem was more severe than Boult's. I am calling it now. Corey Anderson the all rounder is finished. Just like Gandalf dissapeared and had to be reborn.
Nah this is waaaaay premature. Corey's had a few injuries over his career, but iirc this year is the first time he's had back problems. He was starting work bowling in the nets last night and yeah was still a long way off being 100% fit. But just because he's had one back injury that doesn't mean his bowling career is over. Boult had a serious stress fracture back when he was 20 and he came back a year later bowling faster than ever. Ditto for any number of Australia's crock shop of quicks.
 

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