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**Official** New Zealand in Australia 2015

Skyliner

International 12th Man
Oh wow. You didn't recognise it. It is the cricinfo profile pic of Bruce Edgar. New Zealand's next coach.

How long was the bet for - 2 weeks?
You reckon Edgar will get the coaching gig? I thought he was persona non grata now at NZC.....
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Do you not blame him for Henry turning to ****e? Mascarenhas must have had a fair bit of input on the bowling plans.
Henry was bowling frequent deliveries that bounced twice before the wicket keeper as I mentioned earlier on that tour to England. Something has happened to him. Perhaps Dimitri was not hands on enough with him.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
You reckon Edgar will get the coaching gig? I thought he was persona non grata now at NZC.....
He will do great things with Wellington and "earn the right", But yes I thought his rant over where he had to sit during the world cup final was petty and pointless.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
Oh wow. You didn't recognise it. It is the cricinfo profile pic of Bruce Edgar. New Zealand's next coach.

How long was the bet for - 2 weeks?
I think it was for a year!

I will continue to take Hesson I think. Suspect he tends to mold to the style of the captain in question.

Latham for captain!
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
I think a lot of our stupidly excessively attacking has come into our game since the Sharjah 'Phil Hughes' game. Obviously as a performance statistically it would be one of NZ's greatest ever test matches, even though it was such a morbid occasion. In that game with bat and ball we just attacked all the time and even since then (McCullum in Hagley Oval test, the WC, England, Australia etc) we have turned into sloggers and gone searching for wickets (the latter perhaps driven by world cup success). The players talked about the fact that they wanted to return to playing cricket for enjoyment as they did as kids and that the whole mourning process was cathartic and played a role in continuing to shape how they wanted to be as a team. It is interesting because prior to that in the home series against India Baz had been soooooooooooooooooo responsible with the bat and we kept fighting with the old ball (Wagner). That continued in the West Indies where we scored slow and grinding runs and Southee looked McGrathesque in his bowling disciplines even though Craig still went for heaps, and then early in the UAE where Latham looked like Mark Richardson. I like the idea of attacking cricket, but we often play stupid, low percentage cricket & there is a big difference.
 

Howsie

International Captain
It must be a team directive that numbers 9-11 can just wog away no matter the situation. NZ have pretty much done it for a good couple of years now. Southee is a lost cause but even a guy like Henry, who can bat, has come into this test team and just looked to put the ball over the fence.

I'll say this though, the day Williamson takes over that **** will stop. Maybe not Southee but you won't get rookies coming into the team looking to hoick sixes every second ball.
 

vandem

International 12th Man
Heh, McHesson baying for Llong's blood now.

Did Lyon decision contravene ICC directive for DRS? | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

To be fair, an acknowledgement from the ICC that a mistake was made and steps are being taken to ensure it never happens again would make me feel a lot better about it.
Most face-slapping part of this story is the quote from Dave Richardson who in previous media interviews seemed like someone worth listening to.

"I was interested in a poll Channel Nine ran just after, asking 'would you have given it out or not out?' It was pretty much 50-50 the response so it was an extremely difficult decision."

This is deliberate evasiveness. 100% of the TV and radio commentators I heard discussing the incident thought it was out.
 

Howsie

International Captain
Most face-slapping part of this story is the quote from Dave Richardson who in previous media interviews seemed like someone worth listening to.

"I was interested in a poll Channel Nine ran just after, asking 'would you have given it out or not out?' It was pretty much 50-50 the response so it was an extremely difficult decision."

This is deliberate evasiveness. 100% of the TV and radio commentators I heard discussing the incident thought it was out.
FMD. Please tell me he didn't say that...
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I think a lot of our stupidly excessively attacking has come into our game since the Sharjah 'Phil Hughes' game. Obviously as a performance statistically it would be one of NZ's greatest ever test matches, even though it was such a morbid occasion. In that game with bat and ball we just attacked all the time and even since then (McCullum in Hagley Oval test, the WC, England, Australia etc) we have turned into sloggers and gone searching for wickets (the latter perhaps driven by world cup success). The players talked about the fact that they wanted to return to playing cricket for enjoyment as they did as kids and that the whole mourning process was cathartic and played a role in continuing to shape how they wanted to be as a team. It is interesting because prior to that in the home series against India Baz had been soooooooooooooooooo responsible with the bat and we kept fighting with the old ball (Wagner). That continued in the West Indies where we scored slow and grinding runs and Southee looked McGrathesque in his bowling disciplines even though Craig still went for heaps, and then early in the UAE where Latham looked like Mark Richardson. I like the idea of attacking cricket, but we often play stupid, low percentage cricket & there is a big difference.
Yeah I read an interview with BMac a few weeks back where he said that he actually decided to take their style of play as a template for how they're going to play in future, rather than acknowledging it as a freak one-off subject to highly unusual circumstances--all the while forgetting the very good and sensible cricket they'd played in the year beforehand against India etc.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Yeah McCullum peaked as a batsman when he wasn't batting like a loon. Right now he's a more confident and effective version of the guy who tried to slog Herath out of the ground in the final over of the day as an opening batsman...

I don't mind him batting with his foot down so much in the first innings, but in the second he's got to bat to the situation like he used to do.
 

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