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Wait so the fact that they're scared of batting last was the reason they got bowled out for 76 on day 2? Come on, this makes zero sense.
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indiaholic
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It is a tough pitch.. Not easy to score runs and a lot in it for spinners. But this is no excuse for getting all out below 200. If you do that it is because you batted like idiots.
indiaholic
International Captain
No. The toss did not mean that. The pitch is not a joke.
StephenZA
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Its not just about the ball that gets you out....
OverratedSanity
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Utter bull****. It's clear you haven't watched a ball of this test match
AndyZaltzHair
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>SA to end the day with no loss
>Faf to play a match winning innings tomorrow
>Faf to play a match winning innings tomorrow
indiaholic
International Captain
Oh and pray tell me what happened that convinced batsmen that reverse sweeps against the spin, guiding half volleys to the slips, slogging to long off, sweeping to balls that are not remotely close to the sweeping length and driving on the up to spinners are the way to go?
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Sure. I agree. There's been some inconsistent spin which is very tough to bat against. The only thing we disagree on is that this was somehow unfair to sa. They weren't screwed over by the toss, and the only reason were even having this debate is because of how terribly SA batted. I'm damn sure you agree that 200 was a gettable first inning score on this pitch. Imagine if SA had scored that many. We'd be saying what a great match this is, heading towards a wonderfully tight finish. Instead, SA have batted so poorly that its diverted attention to the pitch. It's just dumb, lazy thinking.
cnerd123
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That's not the fault of the pitch. You call it an unplayable pitch if the batsman is literally helpless against the bowling. The batsmen being scared ****less by some turn and bounce, resulting in panick-stricken, misguided, 'attack is the best form of defence' style batting speaks more about their lack of temperament/technique than it does of the pitch.
indiaholic
International Captain
I want to watch good cricket. I watched every advertisement for Lava Iris Atom.
cnerd123
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Surely you're just trolling now? This match is fantastic.
Prince EWS
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This sort of stuff often happens on really difficult pitches. Brad Haddin's shot at Cape Town always springs to mind. I think batsmen sort of panic in a rush to get a few to their name before the inevitable unplayable ball. They lose faith in their ability to get set and build a comfortable innings, and so they make shot selection decisions reminiscent of the sort of batsmen who are always in that situation (ie. tailenders).
I think half the challenge in batting on pitches like this is keeping faith in your ability to play properly on them.
King Pietersen
International Captain
Pollock sounds like he's really enjoying commentating with these two.
Pratters
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How is it fantastic? It's difficult to make even a 40 on the wicket. Its not a contest between bat and ball. One cannot be set. It's a one sided game and instead of any player being the star, the pitches are the star for the wrong reasons.
StephenZA
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The sweep is to try get to the pitch of the ball when you keep getting beaten when playing with a straight bat, driving on the up because the previous ball was bowled a little faster and you have miss judged the speed because it keeps on holding up in the pitch. Slogging because every-time you try block the ball it beats you bat... etc etc etc...
King Pietersen
International Captain
A wicket every 31 balls so far in this Test. Joke of a pitch.
Prince EWS
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I wouldn't like every Test to be like this, but I really enjoy them when they do come up. I always feel like a bit of a hypocrite when I make this argument though because I'd quite happily never see another batting paradise in Test cricket again; these sort of preferences are subjective.
OverratedSanity
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Man I'd so love ot if sa won this for a number of reasons :
1) People who waah about the pitch will have nowhere to turn
2) Shastri and Kohli's nonsense #aggressive approach in the second innings deserves to be punished
3) It'll prove once more to all the dumb **** indian fans here that you never get corky on cw about India's chances. Ever.
1) People who waah about the pitch will have nowhere to turn
2) Shastri and Kohli's nonsense #aggressive approach in the second innings deserves to be punished
3) It'll prove once more to all the dumb **** indian fans here that you never get corky on cw about India's chances. Ever.
Pratters
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Yeah. I hope people realise these are professional cricketers. They are playing unconventionally as they won't last playing the 'proper' cricket much. The thinking is that 'let's try and make a quick 40 because that's the maximum I can muster here.'