The Kane Williamson Average Watch thread

[GIMH]

Root is behind Williamson, Smith, Mathews, Warner and AB at the moment IMO. Easily the best of all of them at age 24 though.

I respect your right to an incorrect opinion

Rooooooooooooootttt

 

[Cabinet96]

Root needs to make a statement away. Good series in SA would be huge.

Mathews is easily the most underrated player on CW. Since taking the captaincy he has been an absolute gun.

Perhaps even more so in the eyes of the average commentary box/tv studio.

 

[The Sean]

Will be interesting to see how far he moves up the rankings. I'm presuming Smith will stay ahead of him after his 2nd innings hundred, but you'd assume Kane would go ahead of Amla and maybe Root too.

Up to (equal) number two

 

[Howe_zat]

Up to (equal) number two

Warner above Amla makes the top 6 look like an actual top 6 for a change. Warner, Williamson, Smith, Root, De Villiers, Mathews

In practise you'd have Cook in for one of the young lot but still

 

[Cabinet96]

Interesting that everyone above Cook in those rankings had a higher peak than him too. You'd have thought in late 2011 or mid 2013 that Cook would have a pretty huge score. I guess it's probably easier for middle order players to go on more sustained Bradmanesq runs.

 

[Spark]

To be fair, the batting rankings are usually pretty good as a snapshot.

 

[Howe_zat]

Interesting that everyone above Cook in those rankings had a higher peak than him too. You'd have thought in late 2011 or mid 2013 that Cook would have a pretty huge score. I guess it's probably easier for middle order players to go on more sustained Bradmanesq runs.

Yeah even when Cook was having his dream run he still had random **** tests like Perth 2010 or Trent Bridge 2011. Happens as an opener

 

[Howe_zat]

To be fair, the batting rankings are usually pretty good as a snapshot.

I find they're really quite spot on for a 'who would you pick right now' sort of measure, especially when there's a big gap in the points, at the top end.

Lower down they mix up players on the up with players on their way down so it gets a little messier - e.g. Mohammed Hafeez is still a better ranked bowler than Mark Wood or Imran Tahir.

Edit: And Stuart Broad is ranked as a better batsman than Stiaan van Zyl

 

[Cabinet96]

To be fair, the batting rankings are usually pretty good as a snapshot.

Oh definitely. I'd say I'm more pro rankings than most tbh.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Murali Vijay needs to be way higher.

 

[Garson007]

Those rankings paint a pretty sad picture for the current state of the #1 side in the world...

 

[BeeGee]

Those rankings paint a pretty sad picture for the current state of the #1 side in the world...

They have the no.1 ranked batsman and the no.1 ranked bowler.

 

[mr_mister]

I wonder if Kane an end up hitting 60

his slow start will probably hurt him a bit but he only seems to be getting better and better

 

[Cabinet96]

Nah come on. If you are to average 60 after a bad first few years you basically can't have rough patches. Top order batsmen have rough patches.

 

[Furball]

Yeah there's a reason pretty much no batsmen average 60.

 

[BeeGee]

Yeah there's a reason pretty much no batsmen average 60.

Because they can't play all of their games on Aussie pitches?

 

[Bossbabe909]

Williamson posted more than Root for 2015 in test
I may wrong may be cook scored more than Williamson.

 

[Garson007]

They have the no.1 ranked batsman and the no.1 ranked bowler.

I meant the depth and particularly on the batting side. Pakistan on the other hand is much better represented than I expected.

 

[Gob]

I wonder if Kane an end up hitting 60

his slow start will probably hurt him a bit but he only seems to be getting better and better

Nah come on. If you are to average 60 after a bad first few years you basically can't have rough patches. Top order batsmen have rough patches.

Yeah there's a reason pretty much no batsmen average 60.

Ponting's average slumped to high 30's IIRC before making the 01 Headingley ton, got it pass 50 against India 03/04 and was above 60 2nd Innings of the Adelaide test 06. Definitely doable but yeah unlikely. Think Smith and Root might end up averaging above 60 for a while. Can defo see Smith's climbing above 60 this summer after feasting on the WI

 

[mr_mister]

I see Smith getting out cheaply more often then I do Williamson tho atm

Granted I haven't seen too much of KW beyond this series but he looks to value his wicket a lot more than Smith, though to Smith's credit he has the skill to play like a cowboy