Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Bring back Collingwood.
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**Official** Pakistan and England in the UAE 2015/16
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Agent Nationaux
International Coach
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Love him so much. Absolute champion.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
The title of it is "Wahab trolls Root - jaa apni mummy ko ro le", which means go cry to your mummy.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
No it wasn't.
smash84
The Tiger King
ummm, yes it was
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Shoaib was there on and off and not always healthy. Off the top of my head he played the Australia, England, and then India series with any consistency. Australian tour was a lost cause for obvious reasons. He was phenomenal against England and in Karachi against India. He also played half a match against South Africa that we won.
Asif's breakout match was the Karachi one against India. He was the star bowler in Sri Lanka, played only the Ovalgate match in England, best bowler in South Africa.
Kaneria played a lot more consistently but wasn't consistently good. He was great in India, against England, and decent to bad against West Indies (though my recollection may be off due to Lara tearing him a new one). I remember him being pretty useless after that.
So yeah we had good bowlers but rarely at the same time due to injuries. Umar Gul spearheaded the attack against Windies and in England, Sami was in and out, Shabbir Ahmed played against England in Multan and then was banned never to be seen again, etc. Razzaq was a mainstay in the side as a bowler for a long time and that tells you a lot about our injury issues around that time.
Really, Pakistan's success was almost always due to our ridiculous middle order of Younis/Yousuf/Inzi with Kakmal and Butt playing a good few innings at times, and then having just enough firepower with our bowling to win matches.
Again, this is all off the top of head so feel free to correct me.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Ye this is pretty much how I remember it as well.
smash84
The Tiger King
Pretty much spot on i think.
Although just to remind you awfully unfit akhtar was he played only 44 matches in career spanning close to 14 years. Contrast that with a 14 year career of Glenn McGrath where he played 124 matches
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
This a more consistent and confident side though. Watching this team develop over the last few years, I think since 2014 they have figured out how to win test matches, how to nail crunch situations. The Inzamam led side, while good, would not be able to pull off a 378 run chase with relative ease, nor a 300 plus chase earlier.
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Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Does PEWS get an alert every time Misbah is mentioned in positive light in a thread?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Add to the Google alert list when the following is mentioned:
1. Ikki on Murali v Warne, Bevan v Dhoni
2. Spark on South Africa being crap chasers
3. Furball on Ian Bell
4. PEWS on Misbah
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Pakistan has never looked so serious when they play tests. At times they did under Akram but right now they seem to be going in with proper plans and players. People seem to be trying hard to maximise their outputs on the field. It's a Pakistan I have not seen a lot and I am really happy to see it.
5. Brad MacNamara on Brad MacNamara
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
smash84
The Tiger King
definitely
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Misbah's team have evolved and grown over the last few years..I think the fact that Misbah has been captain for almost 5 years (another rarity in Pakistan) helps.. You can almost see that he himself has figured out how to extract the best from this team, how to hold your nerve, how to believe as a core unit that you are a great side.
That's the hallmark of a great side for me when it is manifested in the way they play. The crowning achievement for Misbah's side for me was the third test in Sri Lanka when they chased 378 in the fourth innings. The third test in Sharjah was probably the starting point for that game..because in that game, when Pakistan otherwise would have already given up, decided we want to win this. Period.
This is the way I have seen Kohli and Dhoni conduct ODI chases of 350 plus. There is this '**** you, we are here to win this' attitude..this is something I saw in Graeme Smith's team as well when they chased 414 against Australia in 08 and ultimately became number 1.
When a team has this level of self belief among the core group of players, they start to click as a team and it shows in their performances over a period of time.
That's the hallmark of a great side for me when it is manifested in the way they play. The crowning achievement for Misbah's side for me was the third test in Sri Lanka when they chased 378 in the fourth innings. The third test in Sharjah was probably the starting point for that game..because in that game, when Pakistan otherwise would have already given up, decided we want to win this. Period.
This is the way I have seen Kohli and Dhoni conduct ODI chases of 350 plus. There is this '**** you, we are here to win this' attitude..this is something I saw in Graeme Smith's team as well when they chased 414 against Australia in 08 and ultimately became number 1.
When a team has this level of self belief among the core group of players, they start to click as a team and it shows in their performances over a period of time.
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