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**Official** Pakistan and England in the UAE 2015/16
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
...is the first question we'll be asking in our new, weekly, "Ask Ishant" podcast!
Yeah good T20 series and happy that we got a look at most of the likely World Cup squad. 3 spinners all bowled well, and pacers give us good variety which is something we have lacked for quite some time. Batting order should go
Hales
Roy
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Billings
Ali
+ 4 bowlers
Hales
Roy
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Billings
Ali
+ 4 bowlers
Stace
First Class Debutant
Personally I think there's too much 'icing' in there, I would swap Vince for Billings and have him bat 3 as Roy or Hales more often then not will get out inside 4 overs and there's only Root who I would rely on for 'cake', Morgan, Buttler and our lower order are well capable of slogging. I say the as a massive Kent fan and just recently renewed my membership.
Icing and Cake is a myth for T20. Just pick blokes who can score runs quickly, and all 7 of them can. If we lose two quick ones, i'd promote Moeen ahead of Billings (maybe even Buttler depending on the surface/if it is a lowish chase). Batting orders should be flexible in limited overs cricket.
Vince though to be fair had an excellent series, so I wouldn't be angry if he came in for Billings. Both are good options, we have plenty of good T20 bats with Taylor not even in the reckoning and a really good player.
Vince though to be fair had an excellent series, so I wouldn't be angry if he came in for Billings. Both are good options, we have plenty of good T20 bats with Taylor not even in the reckoning and a really good player.
Stace
First Class Debutant
Maybe your right but with your side there's too much danger of losing too many early wickets against good bowling, Vince has a better technique then everyone bar Root in that side imo (yes that's early to say but that's just my opinion). Let Roy and Hales open and hope 1 of them come off then when we lose 1 Vince can steady the ship while the other still goes on the attack, Root can be destructive with Butler and Morgan. What i'm trying to say is losing early wickets can be more hurtful then late ones (especially if Root is gone in the PP) there's a stat that shows losing 3 wickets in the first 6 overs is extremely difficult to recover from.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah I have given up on Maqsood and U Akmal now. They just haven't developed and don't look like they have their focus in the right place and Smali's favourite Shehzad is closely following them. I used to think that dropping Akmal would make him go back to working on his backing, develop his game and come back a stronger player. I was thinking of examples like Amla, AB, Clarke, Smith who when dropped, worked so hard on their game and became the players they are today. Even Malik is a great example here who came back to the side a new, focused and improved player. He worked on upgrading his skills and fitness and the results are there for all to see.I was in a foul mood Yesterday so apologies, I bet England to win at 3.25, but for small stakes and was fuming with myself for not putting more money on.
I think we agree on some things.
Anwar Ali is not good enough sadly. His batting and fielding while handy do not compensate for his sub standard bowling especially at the death. I still have nightmares about him in NZ
Shezhad is doomed once Afridi goes, that is the only reason he is in the t20 side. I don't detest him in the test side, but not a good enough limited overs batsman.
I think Irfan is not that good though, horror at death and runs out of steam to quickly, injury prone, horror bat and fielder.
Tanvir?
A farcical cricketer. His bowling domestically can be gun, but so often he has failed internationally. Some point to his batting to justify his spot. That is so dangerous. So often this guy has ruined a chase, dead end game with the result nearly established? He will smack a few boundaries. So ****ing what.
He also has been accused of halting Azam domestically, when he was captaining him, never giving him anything close to his full quota of overs. Yesterday when he came to the crease it symbolised so much what is wrong with Pakistan cricket. They had Anwar a savage hitter ready to go and Yamin a proper bat also ready. However some idiot decided the "experience" of Tanvir a tried and trusted failure in this scenario was the way to go instead of trusting the young guys.
Agree with Riaz and the young lads like Amir, Gohar and Wasim all beacons of hope.Junaid is finished sadly, given numerous opportunities and now a worthless trundler. He needs to be forgotten. I do agree that Sohail deserves a chance as he is gun at the death, and while not as optimistic as Rahat as he is a poor starter, I'd be more than willing to have a look at him in the next 12 or so months.
On the batting, the old guys still have it at least in Asia! Rizwan was an absolute bust this series and I was a fanboy before this, he looked so poor against spin. Babar has time of course before we make any definite calls.
Umar? Who knows, their is a good batsman in their, but I am not sure if he can be molded into one. If it was to happen, the person who was to do it deserves the freedom of Pakistan!
Maqsood is a worthless slogger though.
It's now absolutely clear that neither Maqsood nor Akmal have this kind of drive, ambition or focus. His shenanigans since being dropped after the WC are for all to see. He has developed this 'PCB and management treat me unfairly and the world is against me attitude' which is the death rattle for growth and development. Even when he gets out, he has that look on his face "God is so unfair" instead of analysing his own cricket.
Move on I say.
As for Irfan, I have to disagree here. His bowling has been excellent this year. Of course he has gone for a few in a few games but which bowler hasn't? For most part he has given Pakistan wickets and breakthroughs at crucial stages and that's what he is there for.
I feel you are also a bit too quick to write off Junaid. Guy had two poor series after two major injuries last year. I am not sure if he was handled or guided well but he still is the best new ball bowler in the country (unless we look at records from 2010
) and his death over skills along with Sohail Khan's are the best as well in LO in the country. He had a decent T20 Haier Cup and I am hoping he bowls well against England Lions this month. The decision to persist with Tanvir and Anwar is again a reflection of wrong and confused strategy in the wake of Hafeez no longer bowling. Pakistan are now desperately looking for a bowling allrounder in the lower order, never mind that these players suck. They should instead focus on the top order because if the top order of Azhar, Hafeez and Babar Azam click, and the specialist bowlers perform, you don't need these Tanvirs.
Imad Wasim can fulfill the role of a genuine allrounder in the team and in his absence, Pakistan are better off opting for Hammad Azam or Saad Nasim but for some reason both of them have been written off. Aamer Yamin can be backup as well.
Btw are you familiar with Sadaf Hussain? Another consistent performer in FC, never gets noticed by the PCB.
Sadaf Hussain | Pakistan Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo
This is a good piece that kind of talks about these issues. I still feel that it's just a matter of picking the right combinations and devising the right stategies. Hafeez, Babar, Haris and Shoaib can be a strong middle order.
Pakistan's home loss to England still results in hope springing eternal - Cricket | Sport360.com
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Niall
International Coach
Under the impression that Sadaf is more suited for long form cricket? It seems a little crazy that he has not been in a test squad yet though, but he has done some interviews recently slagging odd his exclusion, understandable, but not a shrewd move. I think the test bowling isn't a concern at the moment for Pakistan, Amir, Wahab, Imran and Rahat are good quicks, while Hamza is promising. The only concern is possibly the second spinner and whether Wasim or Gohar are good enough to support Yasir next time they are in the SC.