Chris Cairns' Perjury Trial

[Furball]

Haha I love it when Fred boils down his "****/not a ****" perspective to how a player's done for Lancashire.

 

[fredfertang]

Haha I love it when Fred boils down his "****/not a ****" perspective to how a player's done for Lancashire.

.......... now that **** Danny Morrison ...........

 

[Flem274*]

so when cairns tried to get baz he claimed tuffey was already with him. Tuffey played test cricket afterthis meeting....

 

[RxGM]

so when cairns tried to get baz he claimed tuffey was already with him. Tuffey played test cricket afterthis meeting....

I think it comes down to whether you think match fixing in the ICL is a serious crime against cricket. I think the players probably viewed it a bit meh! Like if your in pakistan in the 80s you take a bottle cap with you onto the field.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

So Nathan Astle was the destroyer for Mumbai before Sarabjit Singh did the damage:

5th Match: Chandigarh Lions v Mumbai Champs at Hyderabad (Deccan), Oct 13, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Here's some 1st innings highlights (Mumbai batting)- can't find the run chase but some interesting dismissals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZFUe3gu3A

Found the run chase with some batting which may be considered dubious (with the late Tony Greig commentating).

5th Match ICL T20 Mumbai v Chandigarh HQ P 3 - Video Dailymotion

5th Match ICL T20 Mumbai v Chandigarh HQ P 4 - Video Dailymotion

5th Match ICL T20 Mumbai v Chandigarh HQ P 5 - Video Dailymotion

The last one shows the reactions when they win - CC is smiling.

Listen to the recording at 5:45 in the last one - is it Dean Jones? I wonder if he made a subliminal slip with what he was thinking about the game.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Somebody gif Cairns wiping a fake tear out of his eye.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Listen to the recording at 5:45 in the last one - is it Dean Jones? I wonder if he made a subliminal slip with what he was thinking about the game.

Haha OMG.

 

[jonbrooks]

Really sad to see this playing out the way it is. It's pretty obvious Cairns is guilty. Horrible though as he was one of my favourites through the years.

Cairns had a horrible time with injury. As it stands he would be considered NZ's best genuine all-rounder. Had he not been so injury prone he may well have become the greatest all-rounder of all time. Top three at least.

 

[Red]

Cairns had a horrible time with injury. As it stands he would be considered NZ's best genuine all-rounder. Had he not been so injury prone he may well have become the greatest all-rounder of all time. Top three at least.

AWTA. Could've been of the calibre of Miller/Botham as genuine top six batsmen who were also a genuine opening bowler or third quick.

 

[Cruxdude]

I think it comes down to whether you think match fixing in the ICL is a serious crime against cricket. I think the players probably viewed it a bit meh! Like if your in pakistan in the 80s you take a bottle cap with you onto the field.

I think it is naïve to assume that they only fixed ICL matches.

 

[G.I.Joe]

It should be a matter of jurisdiction. If the ICC doesn't recognize the ICL as official cricket, then they should back the **** off and let the law of the land deal with it. Can't have their cake and eat it too by demanding that players report shady approaches in the league. What's next - the ICC interfering with the usage of gumnuts and shoes in a backyard game?

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

It should be a matter of jurisdiction. If the ICC doesn't recognize the ICL as official cricket, then they should back the **** off and let the law of the land deal with it. Can't have their cake and eat it too by demanding that players report shady approaches in the league. What's next - the ICC interfering with the usage of gumnuts and shoes in a backyard game?

McCullum was not approached for ICL (?)

McCullum, who gave evidence on Thursday morning for nearly two-and-a-half hours, told the court that the first approach had come in his hotel bar in Kolkata ahead of the opening match of the 2008 IPL.

Cairns, he claimed, followed that up with a subsequent phone call, before contacting McCullum at Worcester in June, when he was on tour with the New Zealand Test team. He added that he turned down the offers each time.

 

[weldone]

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Wow, still remember McCullum's knock in the first match of 2008 (the first) IPL.

The first IPL was the only one that I followed.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Wow, still remember McCullum's knock in the first match of 2008 (the first) IPL.

The first IPL was the only one that I followed.

Remember it too somewhat, wasnt it 150+ ?

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Remember it too somewhat, wasnt it 150+ ?

Yeah was a mental knock at the time.

 

[burr]

Thank God Dan V. isn't involved - that would just destroy my faith in cricket.

It's a real shame though - Chris C. was an absolute star when I was growing up - easily the biggest player in the NZ team. Sad.

 

[91Jmay]

Matthew Elliott has been named as well. Does this surprise anyone ? I know nothing about him.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Matthew Elliott has been named as well. Does this surprise anyone ? I know nothing about him.

As a witness you mean? He opened a few times for Australia in the late 90s. Re the trial he played for the Chandigar Lions under Cairns. Scored 30 something in the game I showed links to.

 

[Cruxdude]

How come no action has been taken against McCullum fornot reporting the approach for three years? I understand they wouldn't want to ban him for a year which is the minimum punishment for that but atleast a slap in the wrist was warranted.

 

[Hurricane]

@Fred

How is this trial being allowed. He is effectively being trialed twice for the same crime.