*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[vandem]

Didn't really see much of the ODIs, but is Santner basically our spinner now?

ODI and T20 spinner, hopefully yes for next 12 months.

His role will change a little when Anderson / Neesham are back. He has been filling the role of batting #6 and 5th bowler, with Kane / Elliott helping to fill out his 10 overs. But this is the Anderson role, so suspect Santner will move to #8 and have to bowl his 10, and we'll have 3 front line seamers. Think his bowling is good enough but we'll know at the end of next season.

 

[Athlai]

Hey new guys, post with lightheartedness and respect. It isn't to do with your opinions.

 

[Dan]

!!!!!!

Dan, you're officially a Kiwi now. I am emailing Abbott to revoke your Australian citizenship as we speak.

Give it a week and Dutton will be stripping yours too, ****.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Didn't really see much of the ODIs, but is Santner basically our spinner now?

Yes. He is the new Vettori.

 

[Bahnz]

The big 3

Fleming = BCCI - has the biggest numbers behind him (much to the chagrin of some), has a heavy dose of disdain for Bangladesh, and is always quick to respond to any perceived slight, real or otherwise.
Cane = ECB - hides his own nefarious agenda beneath a cloak of old world piety. Scowls at anti-textbook wastrels like Warner and Sehwag, and dreams forlorn dreams of taking cricket back to the pre-WSC golden days.
Dan = CA - Australian.

 

[Athlai]

The big 3

Fleming = BCCI - has the biggest numbers behind him (much to the chagrin of some), has a heavy dose of disdain for Bangladesh, and is always quick to respond to any perceived slight, real or otherwise.
Cane = ECB - hides his own nefarious agenda beneath a cloak of old world piety. Scowls at anti-textbook wastrels like Warner and Sehwag, and dreams forlorn dreams of taking cricket back to the pre-WSC golden days.
Dan = CA - Australian.

Genuine lol there. Nice stuff

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Still - it does trouble me that Henry didn't do much either right or wrong in his debut series and Wheeler would be starting from ground zero and may be a deer in the headlights initially despite his ODI exposure.

I reckon Henry bowled well to his plan, it's just that he had the wrong plan. Therefore, it's not a contradiction to say both that he bowled well and that he was ineffectual.

Wheeler had a certain meanness about him for mine so I reckon he'll do well in the Tests if Boult is still out.

 

[Hurricane]

I reckon Henry bowled well to his plan, it's just that he had the wrong plan. Therefore, it's not a contradiction to say both that he bowled well and that he was ineffectual.

Wheeler had a certain meanness about him for mine so I reckon he'll do well in the Tests if Boult is still out.

I like this post and rate it. My lack of warmth for Henry is that he didn't swing it however. Wood, god bless him, swung it. If you can't swing it then unless you have absurdly good seam presentation and wrist strength you won't be able to nip it around in Australia off the deck. Their decks are flat, fast, and bouncy.

 

[OverratedSanity]

There are few things more baffling than the NZ plan for the third seamer to bowl half trackers. Really doesn't work unless you're Mitchell Johnson or Ishant Sharma.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Yeah, it was as if Henry was bowling to McClenaghan's plan. He should be copying Boult imo. I agree that Henry looked poor because of a lack of swing, but you've got to pitch it up to get swing. I'd say his five wides for height in one ODI is evidence enough that he should go back to his plan from the UAE.

 

[Skyliner]

Yeah, it was as if Henry was bowling to McClenaghan's plan. He should be copying Boult imo. I agree that Henry looked poor because of a lack of swing, but you've got to pitch it up to get swing. I'd say his five wides for height in one ODI is evidence enough that he should go back to his plan from the UAE.

Does he get to make his own plan? Or is he essentially told what to do by the brains trust? Not sure if anyone would have the answer, but I feel sorry for the guy if he was forced to go away from a plan that worked for him.

 

[Athlai]

There are few things more baffling than the NZ plan for the third seamer to bowl half trackers. Really doesn't work unless you're Mitchell Johnson or Ishant Sharma.

Or Mcclenenen. Please see first half of his career.

 

[Zinzan]

My NZ/Eng combined ODI series XI

Guptill - 39 @ 89 - Marginally ahead of Hales + fielding
Root - 68 @ 108 - Promoted to open
Williamson - 79 @ 104
Taylor- 93 @ 95
Morgan (c) - 64 @ 124
Stokes 35 @ 136 & 9 wickets @ 6.51
Buttler (wk) 61 @ 146
Rashid 38 @ 133 & 8 wickets @ 6.64 - Marginally ahead of Santner
Wood 2 wickets @ 5.23
Finn 8 wickets @ 6.02
Boult 6 wickets @ 5.40 - Has to be there even with only 2 games


Pretty handy side to be fair..

How would this XI fear against Aust?

 

[Skyliner]

My NZ/Eng combined ODI series XI

Guptill - 39 @ 89 - Marginally ahead of Hales + fielding
Root - 68 @ 108 - Promoted to open
Williamson - 79 @ 104
Taylor- 93 @ 95
Morgan (c) - 64 @ 124
Stokes 35 @ 136 & 9 wickets @ 6.51
Buttler (wk) 61 @ 146
Rashid 38 @ 133 & 8 wickets @ 6.64 - Marginally ahead of Santner
Wood 2 wickets @ 5.23
Finn 8 wickets @ 6.02
Boult 6 wickets @ 5.40 - Has to be there even with only 2 games


Pretty handy side to be fair..

How would this XI fear against Aust?

They would give them a hell of a beating.

 

[Jono]

The big 3

Fleming = BCCI - has the biggest numbers behind him (much to the chagrin of some), has a heavy dose of disdain for Bangladesh, and is always quick to respond to any perceived slight, real or otherwise.
Cane = ECB - hides his own nefarious agenda beneath a cloak of old world piety. Scowls at anti-textbook wastrels like Warner and Sehwag, and dreams forlorn dreams of taking cricket back to the pre-WSC golden days.
Dan = CA - Australian.

!!!!11

 

[kiwiviktor81]

Man, how cake would a Root-Williamson-Taylor 2-3-4 be? You could just pick a team of sloggers to bat around them, really.

1. Root
2. McCullum
3, Williamson
4. Morgan
5. Taylor
6. Santner
7. Buttler
8. Stokes
+ bowlers

 

[Skyliner]

It's hard not to look ahead to the Aussie tour. I reckon Baz should call a press conference when he gets there, and then serve it up to the Aussies with inflammatory rhetoric about how we are going to tear the Aussie's a new one, and really ignite a powder keg of trans-Tasman rivalry. Like a Gallen type thing where he calls the Aussie grubs and says NZ doesn't fear them.
Really get the ferals packing out the Gabba, baying for Kiwi blood. They'll never be able to say we don't get the crowds along.
Get our teams backs against the wall so they have to come out fighting, meeting nasty sledge with nasty sledge, Baz up in Clarkes face snarling at each other.
No more meek and mild little Kiwi's, getting told about how the MCGs too big for us and politely and deferentially keeping quiet.
Haddin wants a range war - he'll get one. He wants to see the other side of the 'too nice' Kiwi's - we'll bring the thunder down on his head.

 

[Skyliner]

Man, how cake would a Root-Williamson-Taylor 2-3-4 be? You could just pick a team of sloggers to bat around them, really.

1. Root
2. McCullum
3, Williamson
4. Morgan
5. Taylor
6. Santner
7. Buttler
8. Stokes
+ bowlers

It'd still need to be Guptill over Baz though; he can slog when required, but he's also a gritty fighter.

 

[Howe_zat]

Root - Promoted to open

noooo

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

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