*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[OverratedSanity]

Nope. I countered the bad reasons you and Spark gave against Cook , but regardless, I wasn't referring to Cook when I said overanalysis. I was referring to people trying to evaluate as to why others may want England to lose. The word England is the only answer you need.

There's no "bad" reasons ffs GIMH. Stop overanalysing.

I mean, Spark hates Dhawan just because he mocked Twatto once. Apart from that, he's done nothing to be hated whatsoever... in fact, comes off as a pretty cool guy. I didn't go and argue with Spark about how he shouldn't hate him though.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Highest total "to win" is such a pointless statistic though. There've been pretty huge totals made in the fourth innings in draws or even some losses... proves that those amount of runs can be made in the right circumstances. Just because the total didn't lead to a win doesn't mean it's as impossible as the statistic makes it out to be.

Agreed

 

[LegionOfBrad]

Highest total "to win" is such a pointless statistic though. There've been pretty huge totals made in the fourth innings in draws or even some losses... proves that those amount of runs can be made in the right circumstances. Just because the total didn't lead to a win doesn't mean it's as impossible as the statistic makes it out to be.

Exactly.

Records | Test matches | Team records | Highest fourth innings totals | ESPN Cricinfo

The fact we haven't had higher totals is usually more to do with the time left in the game.

 

[Spark]

There's no "bad" reasons ffs GIMH. Stop overanalysing.

I mean, Spark hates Dhawan just because he mocked Twatto once. Apart from that, he's done nothing to be hated whatsoever... in fact, comes off as a pretty cool guy. I didn't go and argue with Spark about how he shouldn't hate him though.

#never4get

and you hate philander because... i don't actually know, he took too many wickets or something

 

[OverratedSanity]

Fourth innings chases are weird though. Plenty of sides make big scores when they have no hope of chasing down the even more massive score that's been set... then fail to chase 250.

Sure, which is why I feel dangling the carrot like Baz has done today accomplishes absolutely nothing. England are going to bat normally either way. Even if they'd been given longer to bat out, I doubt their batsmen would change their approach much. Giving them a smaller target doesn't increase the possibility of an English loss at all.

 

[GIMH]

Sparky my son, I added in a smiley before I saw your reply, it was a joke, chill, bang bullet

 

[Spikey]

Is there anyone besides Broad in this series who is actively disliked by neutrals?

Anderson. Maybe Cook and Bell

(2000 posts are made)


ha ha ha

 

[OverratedSanity]

#never4get

and you hate philander because... i don't actually know, he took too many wickets or something

Philander is a **** tbf. Does ***** little send offs to batsmen, never bowls when the going is tough, apes Dhoni in interviews where he manages to give as little credit to the opposition as possible and is an unfit fat ****.

The Dan-Vijay saga is a far better example of inexplicable dislike.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Exactly.

Records | Test matches | Team records | Highest fourth innings totals | ESPN Cricinfo

The fact we haven't had higher totals is usually more to do with the time left in the game.

Yep

 

[LegionOfBrad]

You know i wish someone in the next few years would get 500 to win a game. Just so Sky can stop showing their pointless statistic.

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Philander is a **** tbf. Does ***** little send offs to batsmen, never bowls when the going is tough, apes Dhoni in interviews where he manages to give as little credit to the opposition as possible and is an unfit fat ****.

The Dan-Vijay saga is a far better example of inexplicable dislike.

To be fair, he needs a new ball to get nibble to be deadly. Then his other spells are ordinary.

 

[Cabinet96]

Philander is a **** tbf. Does ***** little send offs to batsmen, never bowls when the going is tough, apes Dhoni in interviews where he manages to give as little credit to the opposition as possible and is an unfit fat ****.

The Dan-Vijay saga is a far better example of inexplicable dislike.

I tend to have irrational hate (hate is probably a bit strong) for players I wouldn't have picked, or got picked over other players I like. Joe Root and Ben Stokes are two examples.

They can win me over though.

 

[Stapel]

You know i wish someone in the next few years would get 500 to win a game. Just so Sky can stop showing their pointless statistic.

Agreed,
The "400 runs in the 4th innings has only happened once" is massively overused. It is raw data, with hardly any statistical value. Simply because not too many times teams have been set a 400+ target AND have had reasonable time to get there.

 

[Spikey]

Agreed,
The "400 runs in the 4th innings has only happened once" is massively overused. It is raw data, with hardly any statistical value. Simply because not too many times teams have been set a 400+ target AND have had reasonable time to get there.

And had a capable batting line-up. Plus pitch deterioration has changed. 500 will happen, reasonably soon. Requires either a shock first innings collapse followed by the big chase (ala QLD's 450 odd last year) or insanely fast scoring, but it will happen

 

[Dan]

The Dan-Vijay saga is a far better example of inexplicable dislike.

You're obsessed with this.

 

[LegionOfBrad]

More cloud and a bit of rain after lunch.

 

[Cabinet96]

Hate bowling in winds. Cross field gusts are the worse.

 

[GIMH]

The data says England will be 400-0 after 100 overs.

 

[Prince EWS]

You're obsessed with this.

So are you.

 

[Stapel]

The data says England will be 400-0 after 100 overs.

Well, those figures haven't been corrected for fatigue setting in for the bowlers, and the ball getting old. Might be 450/0 after 100.