*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[LegionOfBrad]

looked like the shermanator

Ok so other than being disliked by complete ****ing morons who care about something like that anything else?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Disliking a person because of his captaincy is piss poor. His public comments have by and large been a case of answering questions put to him, aside from his stance on Warne. Given he's been under more pressure than pretty much any England captain in a generation having had to front up following the KP saga, he's actually done well to keep it together and by and large remain quite calm. he gets the rough end of the stick on this more than anybody.

Top bloke, tbh.

Yeah, don't dislike Cook. Pretty keen on not having to watch him bat though.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, don't dislike Cook. Pretty keen on not having to watch him bat though.

Yeah I mean by all means dislike the cricketer, but the man? I don't see it.

 

[LegionOfBrad]

Yeah, don't dislike Cook. Pretty keen on not having to watch him bat though.

I can imagine being on the end of one of his big hundreds must be horrible for a non englishman. A Bell hundred is a ***y thing. A Cook hundred is a disheartening grind.

 

[Prince EWS]

There's only four of them. I know Jimmy is a bit lippy and Cook a bit boring but I wouldn't of thought of this as a "Why can't both teams lose?" series particularly.

Individual England players aren't really disliked (Broad aside), but the England team as a whole certainly is. Those more strongly associated with the structure of the team as a whole (Cook, mainly) have copped residual bad will due to this, but it's more a case of people wanting England to lose than it is necessarily wanting to see individual players fail or suffer.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Disliking a person because of his captaincy is piss poor. His public comments have by and large been a case of answering questions put to him, aside from his stance on Warne. Given he's been under more pressure than pretty much any England captain in a generation having had to front up following the KP saga, he's actually done well to keep it together and by and large remain quite calm. he gets the rough end of the stick on this more than anybody.

Top bloke, tbh.

Nah, his comments on Mankading were stupid, his response to Warne's criticism was dumb as well, and he also had a big waaahhh over the Anderson-Jadeja and accusing India of trying to somehow get Anderson banned. The majority of what comes out of his mouth has been rubbish.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Nah, his comments on Mankading were stupid, his response to Warne's criticism was dumb as well, and he also had a big waaahhh over the Anderson-Jadeja and accusing India of trying to somehow get Anderson banned. The majority of what comes out of his mouth has been rubbish.

Most guys who play 100 Tests will end up having a few things to pick them up on.

 

[Cabinet96]

Individual England players aren't really disliked (Broad aside), but the England team as a whole certainly is. Those more strongly associated with the structure of the team as a whole (Cook, mainly) have copped residual bad will due to this, but it's more a case of people wanting England to lose than it is necessarily wanting to see individual players fail or suffer.

Yeah I didn't really think about this. I don't tend to really think about teams as cricket boards really, nor do I really give a **** about all the politics in sport, but I guess quite a lot of people do.

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

I think with Bell it's always come down to forever batting like eye candy and promising so much, but with the perception he cashes in more on soft runs than hard runs - i.e. when someone else has already laid the platform, or against weak bowling attacks. With the obvious exception of Ashes 2013 (#1) and maybe a couple of others (no sorry India 2011 doesn't count, just no). And whenever he scores a hundred he comes out with a new self gratifying column entry/interview saying how much he's changed / got harder etc. So yeah

 

[Spark]

Individual England players aren't really disliked (Broad aside), but the England team as a whole certainly is. Those more strongly associated with the structure of the team as a whole (Cook, mainly) have copped residual bad will due to this, but it's more a case of people wanting England to lose than it is necessarily wanting to see individual players fail or suffer.

Kind of one and the same, though. An England team in which Anderson, Broad, Cook and Bell aren't doing well is a pretty mediocre side.

 

[Pothas]

Yeah I didn't really think about this. I don't tend to really think about teams as cricket boards really, nor do I really give a **** about all the politics in sport, but I guess quite a lot of people do.

I don't know if it is really the board. It is just England being England.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Warne would be liking this.

 

[Spark]

Yeah I didn't really think about this. I don't tend to really think about teams as cricket boards really, nor do I really give a **** about all the politics in sport, but I guess quite a lot of people do.

Yeah this isn't Cook's fault, it's Giles Clarke's, by being a classist piece of **** in some of his reasoning for maintaining Cook as captain.

 

[GIMH]

Nah, his comments on Mankading were stupid, his response to Warne's criticism was dumb as well, and he also had a big waaahhh over the Anderson-Jadeja and accusing India of trying to somehow get Anderson banned. The majority of what comes out of his mouth has been rubbish.

I mentioned the Warne thing. The fact you've named three things, and two of them were not exactly isolated opinions let's just say (and I'm leaving it there because there's no point opening those debates), is hardly grounds for such a sentence as the bolded.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Mark Craig likes this

 

[CaptainGrumpy]

Craig for a five for?

 

[Cabinet96]

Jeez it's ragging.

 

[Spark]

I mentioned the Warne thing. The fact you've named three things, and two of them were not exactly isolated opinions let's just say (and I'm leaving it there because there's no point opening those debates), is hardly grounds for such a sentence as the bolded.

You're assuming that every reason that someone dislikes someone else is rational and logical, which is weird

 

[OverratedSanity]

Most guys who play 100 Tests will end up having a few things to pick them up on.

Sure. But all this stuff has come in the space of barely a year. A concentrated stream of whines is what it's felt like.

 

[LegionOfBrad]

There has been some pretty village fielding today.