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Mohammed Amir cleared to return with immediate effect
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Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
The Pakistani government have zero influence on who can and cannot enter into the United Kingdom. There isnt the potential for a diplomatic mess. The Pakistani government know not to ask and if they did they would politely be told it isnt any of their business. Has nothing particularly to do with Pakistan or the UK but how all countries work.
smash84
The Tiger King
haha, yeah. The Pakistan govt knows not every govt is like itself and there is something called the rule of law. And nobody in their right mind would be fighting for a convict in creating a diplomatic mess.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
They might not have influence, but if someone representing Pakistan is refused entry, I doubt Pakistan would be very happy about it and they could do something to ruin an already bad relationship with the UK. Remember what Ijaz Butt did last time?
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Any country who acts as you state and get upset about it would be acting unreasonably. I dont believe Pakistan - if we are talking about the government - would have any issue with it.
A country controls its own borders and entry policy - that is one thing. But for you to state that a people would be upset if a foreign country refused entry to a convicted criminal for a offense committed in that foreign country is a tough sell.
I have no idea if Amir would be refused entry. Quite likely he may be admitted given his age when he committed the crime. But the Pakistan government would not get involved if he was. They understand how the world works better than that.
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smash84
The Tiger King
Ijaz butt was not a Govt of Pakistan representative btw.
And Goughy's assessment is pretty spot on. Don't try to make a mountain out of a molehill. If amir is denied entry nobody is going to be happy about it. Heck even some people in the Pakistan team might also be quite happy about it.
TNT
Banned
Not could control, did control.
What was the purpose of this control, do you think Majeed would get the players to bowl no balls just for fun. Besides the no balls were simply to prove that Majeed had complete control of the Pakistani players and could script the players to do whatever he liked.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Of course he did control.
It was a test to show Mazhar Mahmood, a journalist for the NOTW and posing as someone who wanted to fix matches, that Majeed had control over the Pakistani players. Majeed's thinking was that if he could prove that he could control Butt et al to Mahmood (for a price), then Mahmood would pay big bucks in the future to have Pak players do something specific, so that Mahmood could place and win bets.
This particular example was just a test to entice Mahmood, so no bets were placed, and even if it was't a test, Mahmood wouldn't place bets since he was pretending anyway. The only money exchanged was Mahmood's own cash for the demonstration.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Pak government is already involved. When the Patron of the PCB is Nawaz Sharif, it is involved!
Amir will not be allowed into the team without Nawaz's say so.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Anyway, in the UK, immigration rules essentially state that a person who's served a prison sentence of less than 12 months in the last 5 years will have their visa application subjected to mandatory refusal. So yeah, he's not getting back in here in the near future unless he comes up with a rather inventive legal challenge.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
He's done the time, happy to see him back on the scene.
Also, were calls to have him imprisoned by Morgie serious? Yeah throw a 19 year old in prison where he hangs out with nothing but criminals and then wonder why he turns to a life of crime when he gets out. Good plan.
Also, were calls to have him imprisoned by Morgie serious? Yeah throw a 19 year old in prison where he hangs out with nothing but criminals and then wonder why he turns to a life of crime when he gets out. Good plan.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
He went to jail. What more do you want?
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Doubt any of the English counties would want him anyway. Supporters wouldn't want Amir at their club and the sponsors would likely be against it. Plus why get an overseas player that hasn't played for 5 years?
No idea about the processes involved but I'd imagine at some point Amir will tour with Pakistan in England again if he makes his way back into the Pakistan team. Probably some icc event like champions trophy or world cup 2019. Can't see him ever playing county cricket for numerous reasons- actually possibly way down the line but not in the near future.
No idea about the processes involved but I'd imagine at some point Amir will tour with Pakistan in England again if he makes his way back into the Pakistan team. Probably some icc event like champions trophy or world cup 2019. Can't see him ever playing county cricket for numerous reasons- actually possibly way down the line but not in the near future.
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morgieb
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I never called for him to be imprisoned. Wonder how you interpreted that....
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Doubt it. COmpletely different ball park of crime but I think the Ched Evans saga has changed things for any high profile club trying to sign ex-cons and given Amir's crimes were against the game itself, could see the same sort of backlash from sponsors as with Evans that would make it not worth it.