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***Official**** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2014/2015

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
The only thing Williamson changed about his game was knowing his role better and being locked in at number 3.

Latham has more SR-upping options now than Williamson did then.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Nah, just because Latham can hoick over cow it doesn't mean he's got more options. Kane always had all the shots, he was just really good at hitting them to fielders or getting out. Remember when he had a real go at Murali for a few overs when we were losing in the 2011 semi? He happily smacked Bond around in List A as a teen too.

Latham has the shots too, but like early Kane he's struggling with building a fluent ODI innings and finding gaps. The only way to solve it is by playing lots of limited overs cricket. By the 2019 World Cup he'll be fine, but barring a breakthrough series here he's underdone for next month.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Latham is a quality cricketer but he definitely hasn't justified his ODI selection to date. I sympathise with him because he's being asked to do a role he hasn't done in domestic cricket for some time, but even so he hasn't been covering himself in glory by getting bogged down then having a fatal rush of blood. I can't remember the last time he knocked the ball around for a decent strike rate and imo that is the number one job for the #5. As someone (Zinzan) pointed out, his inability to even get to 30 is concerning.
This is the role Latham performs/performed for Canterbury. (He hasn't played this year). He and B Cachopa would swap roles in the List A, Latham would take gloves and bat middle order (usually 4 rather than 5) while Cachopa would open.
 
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Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Number 5 in an ODI team is a bit like 3rd seamer in the test team.

The candidates are too good at List A level to play that role at for their provinces.

You have to pick and hope.... and wait.

Elliott, closest to a specialist, and hence a step down in true class from some if the other contenders. But I'd back him to get up to speed after the next 9 warm ups.

Latham; plays multiple roles for Centerbury.

Munro; again close to a specialist, doubts about class at higher level. Has neglected his bowling anyway.

Watling; has played all over - but as a keeper again now even for ND you'd imaging he would bat high for a keeper e.g. at 5. But has he played Ford Trophy in last few years?

Brownlie; was rubbish at List A until last 12 months. Huge improvement but that has been in top 3.

So, stop worrying at let the Elliott v Latham at 5 sort itself out over next 9 games .....
 

Flem274*

123/5
yup.

Ultimately I think Elliott is the better choice. I want Latham to take Guptill's spot...
Guptill > Latham in ODIs by the same margin Latham > Guptill in tests.

Latham isn't going to be a better ODI batsman than Guptill before the World Cup, and after the World Cup I suspect Baz will retire and focus on tests which means it's the perfect chance to shift Latham up to partner Guptill.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
I know. I just think it'll be a better partnership.

No real rationale other than that I rate Latham as you know.

Although I could go McHesson and cite LH-RH partnership and #shotsoffbothfeet
 

Jezroy

State Captain
Not sure if anyone's pointed out no Kane for the next 3 or so games, due to a shoulder injury. But more interestingly, talk that at some point before the World Cup he will captain and Baz will have a breather.

Bit hard to accept that either team are taking this series that seriously, when the whole exercise seems geared towards the World Cup
 

jonbrooks

International Debutant
It's going to be interesting to see how Taylor plays in the next few ODIs. He's been a bit below par so I'd like to see him ramp up his game.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
{Beatup Warning}

Gah. What awful and typical hubris from an Australian. Chris Rogers talking about retiring after the Ashes because:

"But also, I think, looking forward for the Australian side, there's got to be a time when they start to rebuild the side, and maybe with the Tests that are on next summer there might be a little bit less pressure and it might be the ideal time for a younger guy to come in and get some experience."

Blatantly casting New Zealand as easy-beats there. Good to see Australian cricket's view on New Zealand hasn't changed from the 1940s.

Chris Rogers considered quitting cricket after helmet scare against India at Gabba | Stuff.co.nz

{Beatup Ends}
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
{Beatup Warning}

Gah. What awful and typical hubris from an Australian. Chris Rogers talking about retiring after the Ashes because:

"But also, I think, looking forward for the Australian side, there's got to be a time when they start to rebuild the side, and maybe with the Tests that are on next summer there might be a little bit less pressure and it might be the ideal time for a younger guy to come in and get some experience."

Blatantly casting New Zealand as easy-beats there. Good to see Australian cricket's view on New Zealand hasn't changed from the 1940s.

Chris Rogers considered quitting cricket after helmet scare against India at Gabba | Stuff.co.nz

{Beatup Ends}
Could you be any more sensitive? He's not calling you easy beats for god sake, he's saying that a three test match series at home has less pressure than a 5 match Ashes series in England, for a debutant no less.
 
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