***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2014/15

[Blocky]

How many clubs are in the premier division of Auckland cricket

14 split across two divisions.

 

[SteveNZ]

14 split across two divisions.

In two dayers, yeah. 14 in one comp (two pools) in one dayers and geographic conferences in T20.

But I presume Cane asked because it's incredible how many Aces and national players come from one club. Fair inquiry too.

 

[Smudge]

More students than full time residents etc.

I hope you aren't planning to study/haven't studied statistics.

 

[Blocky]

In two dayers, yeah. 14 in one comp (two pools) in one dayers and geographic conferences in T20.

But I presume Cane asked because it's incredible how many Aces and national players come from one club. Fair inquiry too.

It tends to be that way across all regions though, there tends to be a favoured club of the moment and it's normally due to the coaching and setup, sometimes politics. Mark Turner should've played for Auckland, probably would've had he played at Howick-Pak.

 

[SeamUp]

Talking WC squad, surely Elliott can't sneak in ?

Guptill, Latham, B.McCullum, Taylor, Williamson, Ronchi
Needham, Anderson
Vettori, N.McCullum
Mills, McClenaghan, Southee, Milne, Henry

Your 15 right there ?

 

[SeamUp]

Who is the most exciting young batsman in NZL cricket who hasn't played for the Black Caps yet ?

Not able to see some of your domestic but it would seem it is between Michael Bracewell, Will Young & Daryl Mitchell ?

 

[Howsie]

Craig Cachopa | New Zealand Cricket | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo

If spin bowling didn't exist I'd go with Mitchell though.

 

[straw man]

Doesn't Craig Cachopa want to play for England though? Or is he keeping a foot in both camps?

 

[SeamUp]

Pretty much thought he committed himself to Sussex and England too.

 

[Kippax]

The Auckland CEO said "we appreciate the path Craig's chosen in the short to medium term" though, so he wasn't ruling out a switch back.

Bracewell's not really a prospect who'll be waxed lyrical about by overseas viewers. We talk about him a lot because he's an opener. Or at least he did always open, back when Hesson coached Otago.

 

[Howsie]

Doesn't Craig Cachopa want to play for England though? Or is he keeping a foot in both camps?

Do you really believe he'd wait till he's 30 before playing international cricket? I'd put my house on him playing for New Zealand before 2017.

 

[straw man]

True, could easily be a half-threat to say to NZ 'hey guys, pick me or else'. An unnecessary threat though, seeing as he'd probably play for us anyway in some format in the next couple years.

 

[straw man]

Bracewell's not really a prospect who'll be waxed lyrical about by overseas viewers. We talk about him a lot because he's an opener. Or at least he did always open, back when Hesson coached Otago.

Will still probs be next NZ opener though, under the policy of backing youth (and finally accepting that Rutherford youth needs some more work).

 

[Howsie]

True, could easily be a half-threat to say to NZ 'hey guys, pick me or else'. An unnecessary threat though, seeing as he'd probably play for us anyway in some format in the next couple years.

It was probably just too good a deal to pass up. County cricket, decent money etc. Add in he probably was t going to play for NZ for at least two years anyway. I just can't see him passing up international cricket for seven years.

 

[Kippax]

Will still probs be next NZ opener though, under the policy of backing youth (and finally accepting that Rutherford youth needs some more work).

"All I'll say about that is you need to pick specialist openers in New Zealand". - McCullum last month

And yet Macewell isn't opening ahead of Redmond.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

I hope you aren't planning to study/haven't studied statistics.

Excuses my hyperbole

 

[SteveNZ]

It tends to be that way across all regions though, there tends to be a favoured club of the moment and it's normally due to the coaching and setup, sometimes politics. Mark Turner should've played for Auckland, probably would've had he played at Howick-Pak.

I'd attribute our success to a few things - being the first to have a proper indoor facility, Dipak Patel's work (his one-on-one work, not with our Premier side which he paid lip service to), training against a strong, competitive group, large junior base etc. Maybe I'm biased but I don't think politics got any of our guys to where they've got to. Every single one earned it. But you could be right on Mark, in that he might've had to develop his game more than just being outstanding on the front foot. Facing our quicks in the nets wouldn't have hurt his game a bit.

 

[SteveNZ]

It was probably just too good a deal to pass up. County cricket, decent money etc. Add in he probably was t going to play for NZ for at least two years anyway. I just can't see him passing up international cricket for seven years.

So Crachopa can play for NZ tomorrow if he likes? I was under the impression he had to commit to Sussex and by extension England, with a standdown period significantly longer if he wanted to tee up NZ again.

I dunno if there's too much special about Daryl Mitchell or Michael Bracewell. You've seen their possible international careers already in the likes of How, Flynn, Rutherford etc - and that's being very kind.

 

[Prince EWS]

So Crachopa can play for NZ tomorrow if he likes? I was under the impression he had to commit to Sussex and by extension England, with a standdown period significantly longer if he wanted to tee up NZ again.

I dunno if there's too much special about Daryl Mitchell or Michael Bracewell. You've seen their possible international careers already in the likes of How, Flynn, Rutherford etc - and that's being very kind.

As he hasn't actually played for England, he can turn around and play for New Zealand immediately if he feels like it. Sussex may sue him for breach of contract but beyond that he's fine under ICC regulations.

 

[Athlai]

Wrong thread