***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5

[Swingpanzee]

It was a fairly good comeback from him, bowled absolute rubbish in the first session though so won't say he's terribly underrated. The general consensus I think is that he started well but lost his X-factor somewhere in SA and has looked absolute rank ever since.

Still think he's ****, tbh.

The best bowler today was Ashwin by far. Stemmed the flow of runs and was the major (if only at one point) provider of pressure

 

[Daemon]

He never had an x factor, he was just a bit more accurate and probing. He's still decent when there's reverse but he's bowling way too many boundary balls with the new ball right now.

 

[anil1405]

It basically comes down to Shami vs Yadav for the 3rd seamer spot and on these pitches Yadav is a more sensible option.

 

[Daemon]

It basically comes down to Shami vs Yadav for the 3rd seamer spot and on these pitches Yadav is a more sensible option.

or anywhere else

 

[honestbharani]

Think when Bhuvi is fit, he and Yadav will be our opening bowlers overseas and Ishant the perennial 3rd seamer...


And swingpanzee, I get the feeling that Steve Smith likes to run his mouth a little bit... But of course, Shami being who he is (amongst the rank new ball bowlers in the world in the past 5 years), should just keep his mouth shut and try and see if he can string together 6 decent balls at a time...

 

[Prince EWS]

Yeah Yadav is definitely better than Shami when he's fit. I kind of like Shami but he reminds me of Sreesanth in that he seems to think he bowls about 160km/hr despite the fact that he's a fast-medium outswing bowler. Fast-medium outswingers can obviously be very effective at Test level and, like Sreesanth, Shami can bowl some real jaffas, but he needs to realise what sort of bowler he is and build plans accordingly.

 

[the big bambino]

Yadav india's best seamer imo

 

[Teja.]

Apart from conditions like England, Bhuvi is not a genuine 2nd seamer overall and has never been even in FC cricket. He has specific strengths and can execute them well even at international level but he definitely can't be relied upon to provide the workload/wpm of a 1st/2nd seamer. He's a bowling all-rounder, a bits and pieces cricketer you could say but while he doesn't provide the meal, his bits and pieces are excellent appetizers and dessert. He should take the new ball but the first change bowler still has to take the lead and more workload than Bhuvi.

Yadav is tentatively India's best seamer for the future and Instant Karma is going to be in the team for the next 2-3 years.

Ashwin deserves more recognition. If a pacer bowled well at home even in conditions favourable to pacers, they'd gain a good rep even if they were **** away, Ashwin has won some series single-handedly on the bowling front against good sides at home and at his best keeps it very tight away and also averages near on 40 with the bat. An absolute weapon.

Yadav
Sharma
Bhuvi
Ashwin

with Shami as injury guard and Aaron to gtfo and bowl well for a season in FC cricket.

 

[Antihippy]

With ashwin and and bhuvi in the team I don't see why india can't go with a 5 bowler attack.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Apart from conditions like England, Bhuvi is not a genuine 2nd seamer overall and has never been even in FC cricket. He has specific strengths and can execute them well even at international level but he definitely can't be relied upon to provide the workload/wpm of a 1st/2nd seamer. He's a bowling all-rounder, a bits and pieces cricketer you could say but while he doesn't provide the meal, his bits and pieces are excellent appetizers and dessert. He should take the new ball but the first change bowler still has to take the lead and more workload than Bhuvi.

Yadav is tentatively India's best seamer for the future and Instant Karma is going to be in the team for the next 2-3 years.

Ashwin deserves more recognition. If a pacer bowled well at home even in conditions favourable to pacers, they'd gain a good rep even if they were **** away, Ashwin has won some series single-handedly on the bowling front against good sides at home and at his best keeps it very tight away and also averages near on 40 with the bat. An absolute weapon.

Yadav
Sharma
Bhuvi
Ashwin

with Shami as injury guard and Aaron to gtfo and bowl well for a season in FC cricket.

Tbh, this is literally the first time Ashwin has managed to keep things really tight in an overseas test.

 

[Teja.]

With ashwin and and bhuvi in the team I don't see why india can't go with a 5 bowler attack.

because Dhoni shouldn't bat six away from home because it is insulting to the somewhat glorious increasingly hipster game of test cricket and Dhoni has to play so we have to get the bowling order in 8-11.

At home, we can have the greatest bits and pieces AR tail with Jadeja, Dhoni, Ashwin and Bhuvi between 6-9 and the frontline pacers occupying the two spots also satisfying the SC tactic of two spinners.

Also just realized Dhoni in current form in the most typical bits and pieces cricketer ever. 1/3rd a test captain, 1/3rd a test batsman, 1/3rd a test wicketkeeper or at least takes 1/3rd his catches anyway.

 

[Teja.]

Tbh, this is literally the first time Ashwin has managed to keep things really tight in an overseas test.

Last test first 10 overs or so, he really didn't concede and kept the pressure on. Smith went after him later though.

However, while I see your point, I've long maintained that Ashwin's follies away had more to do with him bowling some of the most incredible filth ever bowler by a spinner as opposed to his style in itself being inherently terrible away. I just think it was a really bad phase of form that went into the England series at home as well. Hopefully, he's well and truly out of that phase now as I don't think he's particularly inconsistent and mixes up jaffas with filth. He just either bowls well or bowls awful.

 

[Hurricane]

With ashwin and and bhuvi in the team I don't see why india can't go with a 5 bowler attack.

Good suggestion

 

[dermo]

aaron certianly has the tools to be a very good bowler for india imo but he's not there yet. if he was an aussie or saffa you'd say go back to first class cricket and learn your trade but unfortunately being the fast bowling wasteland that it is, you wouldn't think he'd learn much in india.

atm ishant bhuvi yadav are India's best 3 quicks with aaron ahead of shami as the 4th imo

 

[Antihippy]

Last test first 10 overs or so, he really didn't concede and kept the pressure on. Smith went after him later though.

However, while I see your point, I've long maintained that Ashwin's follies away had more to do with him bowling some of the most incredible filth ever bowler by a spinner as opposed to his style in itself being inherently terrible away. I just think it was a really bad phase of form that went into the England series at home as well. Hopefully, he's well and truly out of that phase now as I don't think he's particularly inconsistent and mixes up jaffas with filth. He just either bowls well or bowls awful.

Good point about dhoni, but I always feel like india lose test matches just due to the bowlers falling away after a few good spells, either through fatigue or whatever.

Also it always baffles me to see shami falling away. It wasn't that long ago that he was looking the goods.

 

[Swingpanzee]

Shami just looks clueless when he bowls most of these days. It's like he's perenially jaded and has no plan where to bowl to.

India were mediocre with 2nd new ball today. Had they bowled better Australia could have been in a very tricky situation.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Shami improved a lot after that first session, though. Post lunch, I thought he was excellent for a while with Ashwin when they gave nothing away.

 

[morgieb]

Shami = Sreesanth basically. Both can bowl beautifully at times but are more often rubbish.

 

[weldone]

At first look, it's not a bad scorecard for India. But Aussie tailenders are dangerous.

 

[weldone]

Aaron not playing probably saved us 50-60 runs on day1.