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***Official*** English Domestic Season 2014

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Sounds like it's the test wicket from last week. Stokes replacing Coughlin but needs to get a move on if he wants to have a bat the way Durham are batting.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Plus he seems to bend over backwards to accomodate NZ rather than doing what he should be doing and trying to create england players. Williamson was too young when we brought him in as overseas player; he lets Fuller return to NZ and play domestic cricket and always returns injured, Craig playing for our second team thiw week and today for our firsts playing instead of english spinner, Marshall continuing to keep his contract however average he is.
Um, considering Bracewell managed to get Williamson free for the club I wouldn't complain. Gloucs obvs couldn't afford an overseas pro around that time so that was a pretty excellent pickup.
 

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
Um, considering Bracewell managed to get Williamson free for the club I wouldn't complain. Gloucs obvs couldn't afford an overseas pro around that time so that was a pretty excellent pickup.
Pretty sure NZ got more out of the deal than Gloucestershire (or England). Williamson was for the most part average. He wasn't a draw in terms of crowd or general interest and it's doubtful at such a young age whether he helped positively influence the glos players. NZ got a player a year or so's experience of english conditions; glos got a player who wasn't really good enough the first year and didn't lead glos to any greater performances on the field whilst taking the place of an English player.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
There's 18 FC counties. The particular English batsman not being selected by Gloucs probably wasn't going to ever look at England selection anyway -- how many 27-year-olds who average 29 after 100+ FC games are there rolling around in Div2?

And at the end of the day, if the hierarchy didn't like the idea of Williamson/Craig having a run around for them and thought it would hurt the team, they probably wouldn't have approved it anyway.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
England U19s in a decent position in the first ODI, Haseeb Hameed on 78*, scored a century for Lancs seconds last week as well. Look for him to be given a chance in the first team in about 2020.

Another to keep an eye out for is Michael Parkinson.Took 6 fer for the seconds in a OD last week - playing for England U17 EDP this week, they played against SA U19s the other day, he came on with SA 43/0 chasing 153 to win, took 6/20 and they won by 23 runs. Currently has 4/37 against Pakistan U17s. Cricinfo has him listed as an off spinner, but he is actually a leggie.
 
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Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Pretty sure NZ got more out of the deal than Gloucestershire (or England). Williamson was for the most part average. He wasn't a draw in terms of crowd or general interest and it's doubtful at such a young age whether he helped positively influence the glos players. NZ got a player a year or so's experience of english conditions; glos got a player who wasn't really good enough the first year and didn't lead glos to any greater performances on the field whilst taking the place of an English player.
Michael Klinger, your overseas pro for the last two years averages 40 for Gloucestershire. The same amount the 'young and average' Kane Williamson managed during his one and abit years with the club. Difference, you're paying Klinger, you didn't Williamson. Without Bracewell you don't get that deal. Instead you're paying below average international cricketers like Ed Cowan to come over and play.

Obvs it benefited NZ cricket and Williamson too. That was the whole point of the deal. We send you over someone who we believe will help your team, pay for him etc. He gains experience.
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
Yorks appear to have pounced on this game from nowhere.

Kane Williamson obviously a big role. He's a much better player than when he got here 18 months ago and perhaps some of the Indian batsmen should take note of that.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Chopra is in some form ATM, after a crushingly disappointing trot at the start of the season. Oh and bloody hell, just saw the pic of Tim Ambrose on cricinfo, the man is a bit follically challenged nowadays. Living in Brum will do that to you though, I suppose.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Essex perhaps regretting not playing Craddock or Phillips against Glamorgan.

Saj Mahmood's contribution of 5 - 0 - 22 - 0 in the match with 20 runs from the bat seems a little underwhelming. Salisbury's return of 5 - 0 - 33 - 0 also looking a little unnecessary. Methinks someone misread the pitch when you have Panesar bowling 67, Smith bowling 21 and Westley bowling 12.

Mind you, Ryder's managed to contribute 28 overs. A bit bizarre.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Hampshire got to get the win tomorrow, looks like Carberry and Adams batted too slowly today but we still should have given ourselves enough time to bowl them out.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
So, Chris Jones retiring is a bit random...
Never going to push for England selection and has a uni degree. Can't say I blame him -- as a 35-year-old ex-cricketer averaging high 20s over 150 FC games, you're a decade behind everyone else in career progression.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah but being a county cricketer is just about the best job I can think of. I am sure he has got a very good job lined up with greater earning potential but is never something I would do.
 

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