***Official*** India in England 2014

[Jassy]

Clouderson is a total cry baby and even English fans acknowledge that. Went crying to the umpire when Bailey said a few words to him but he himself has no qualms sledging blokes even after the cricket is over. Can't wait till his next subcontinent tour or the Ashes.

 

[harsh.ag]

I always knew you didn't speak English up there

So Jadeja lied in his testimony which also swung the decision.

Embellishing =/= Lying. Get what you were talking about there Cabinet

 

[Jassy]

I think India should refuse to play and call off the tour.

Should have done it after Lords, pointless now

 

[BoyBrumby]

Old Trafford would suit Stokes as well and if you pick a guy in an original squad and have to call someone in as cover then you should be picking the original guy before the cover. Not that it follows with England of course who regularly contradict themselves by picking emergency cover players ahead of the original squad.

Assuming he was fit, I wouldn't have dropped him for Southampton (or Plunkett either), but both apparently aren't 100%, obviously. Why take the chance?

 

[harsh.ag]

I only heard about Plunkett being rested. Nothing about Stokes. I think he was just dropped, plain and simple. Should get back his place IMO.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Well, if it's being reported in the national press his left foot is fecked I'm inclined to believe there's something in it.

 

[91Jmay]

Embellishing =/= Lying. Get what you were talking about there Cabinet

Nah, Embellishing is lying. Inventing parts of the story that didn't happen.

 

[eroticfishcake]

Finn's back.Just what we need.

well how's his form this summer?

 

[Johann]

I think we'll drop Jordan in order to complete the full destruction of his confidence and Finn will play

 

[91Jmay]

I think we'll drop Jordan in order to complete the full destruction of his confidence and Finn will play

Jordan needs dropping, don't see how him playing whilst being so lacking match practise is going to do anything for his confidence, let him get back to Sussex. Finn has been taking wickets, not sure how he's been bowling though.

 

[harsh.ag]

Nah, Embellishing is lying. Inventing parts of the story that didn't happen.

Embellishing means adding to the story, not inventing.

Plus, I am pretty sure that Jadeja said he didn't turn back aggressively to get his fine turned back on appeal (advised by lawyers etc).

Ironic that the "turned back aggressively" is fined, but not the "in self-defense push".

 

[91Jmay]

Embellishing means adding to the story, not inventing.

Plus, I am pretty sure that Jadeja said he didn't turn back aggressively to get his fine turned back on appeal (advised by lawyers etc).

Ironic that the "turned back aggressively" is fined, but not the "in self-defense push".

yes it means 'adding' things that didn't happen to the story. Yep, he changed his story thus undermining its credibility in any way.

 

[Johann]

Jordan needs dropping, don't see how him playing whilst being so lacking match practise is going to do anything for his confidence, let him get back to Sussex. Finn has been taking wickets, not sure how he's been bowling though.

If we hadn't dropped CJ the first time round, I'd agree but you can't drop a player after one test in a series, bring him back for one test and then drop him again.

The selectors need to hold their nerve with him because we don't have great bowling stocks at the moment and we need to stop destroying new bowlers confidence by bringing them in and dropping them so easily

 

[harsh.ag]

yes it means 'adding' things that didn't happen to the story. Yep, he changed his story thus undermining its credibility in any way.

You are inventing this meaning out of thin air (adding things to the story which are often not true, not always not true, is the meaning).

If he hadn't changed his story, he would have been the only one to face any punishment whatsoever for this incident. The only ones who undermined their credibility were the ICC judicial committee

 

[91Jmay]

If we hadn't dropped CJ the first time round, I'd agree but you can't drop a player after one test in a series, bring him back for one test and then drop him again.

The selectors need to hold their nerve with him because we don't have great bowling stocks at the moment and we need to stop destroying new bowlers confidence by bringing them in and dropping them so easily

Yeah, problem is they have made so many mistakes in selection either way they are compounded their bad errors.

 

[harsh.ag]

A) Thing known for certain - Anderson pushed him (whether maliciously or in self-defense).

B) Not known for certain - Whether Jadeja turned around aggressively or not.

If you don't fine A, you have no business fining B.

 

[91Jmay]

A) The only thing known for certain - Anderson pushed him (whether maliciously or in self-defense).

B) Not known for certain - Whether Jadeja turned around aggressively or not.

If you don't fine A, you have no business fining B.

Oh god, give it up. Neither should be fined, it was a nothing incident cooked up to get Anderson out of the rest of the series. Dhoni was so morally unshakeable in his pursuit of justice he let Jadeja change his story to avoid punishment.

 

[harsh.ag]

Oh god, give it up. Neither should be fined, it was a nothing incident cooked up to get Anderson out of the rest of the series. Dhoni was so morally unshakeable in his pursuit of justice he let Jadeja change his story to avoid punishment.

I agree with you, which you don't seem to get. I am not pushing on that.

But the fact is Jadeja was fined. Hence by (A,B) analogy. The geniuses at ICC were responsible for Jadeja having to change his story, not Dhoni.

If Dhoni had to do something like that, he would have done it in 2011, when we didn't have a chance, as compared to now. Stop being a dick to India. We haven't done things like this under Dhoni, or for that matter, any other captain.

Anderson is a giant ****, much bigger than Jadeja, whether you like to admit it or not. Look to your own issues before coming down on the Indian team's morality.

 

[GIMH]

Jimmy Anderson is a top bloke and a northerner to boot. Would rather share a beer with him than Jadeja any day.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Woah, let's not go overboard here. Anderson is a dick of the highest order and extremely lucky that a camera happened to be switched off. Oh, and since we're on the internet, you'll have to imagine air quotes for the last couple of words there.