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***Official*** India in England 2014

Cabinet96

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, we should've toured SA last winter but the Ashes was pushed forward. That was done so we could focus on the World Cup so I guess it would've been weird to go to SA this winter, even though we could've of. Still, six year wait between tours is pretty ****, especially as they're not coming back to ours until 2017. To put things into perspective, we'll have played Australia 15 times in between the last time we played South Africa and the next time we do.
 
grecian

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Anderson's decision put off to the weekend then.

Anyway after the adulation what do you reckon would be good Test careers for Moeen and Jos.

I'm only thinking this because if Moeens career stayed the same (I know not going to happen) I would be pretty pleased. In fact about averaging 32 with a ball, and around late-thirties early forties would be a great career. Yet even if you put it about mid-30s in both it would be effective.

Anyone that thinks Buttler will be a new Gilchrist is fooling themselves, if he averages the same as Prior whilst 'keeping well, I would be hugely delighted. Yet I think I'd take about mid-thirties, considering how quickly he'll score and the percentage of matches he'll turn on it's head with that average.

Also Stokes and Woakes, as all-rounders might be worth a thought. Even Jordan, but I'm not convinced unless something changes.
 
wpdavid

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
grecian said:
Anderson's decision put off to the weekend then.

Anyway after the adulation what do you reckon would be good Test careers for Moeen and Jos.

I'm only thinking this because if Moeens career stayed the same (I know not going to happen) I would be pretty pleased. In fact about averaging 32 with a ball, and around late-thirties early forties would be a great career. Yet even if you put it about mid-30s in both it would be effective.

Anyone that thinks Buttler will be a new Gilchrist is fooling themselves, if he averages the same as Prior whilst 'keeping well, I would be hugely delighted. Yet I think I'd take about mid-thirties, considering how quickly he'll score and the percentage of matches he'll turn on it's head with that average.

Also Stokes and Woakes, as all-rounders might be worth a thought. Even Jordan, but I'm not convinced unless something changes.
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There have been some plusses this summer, no question. And you could add the batting of Ballance and Root, neither of whom were certainties back in May.
As you say, Buttler as Prior Mark 2 would be lovely, but we can't say anything yet. Bashing this Indian attack when there were already 450+ on the board doesn't tell us very much.
Moeen is interesting. If he can improve his batting as quickly as he's improved his bowling, then we're on to something. But at the moment he doesn't look like a top 6 test batsman to me.

If one or two out of Stokes, Woakes and Jordan do develop into genuine test bowlers who can bat more than a bit, then that's a great lower middle order. Still not convinced by Broad as an opener though. And the last couple of years or so suggest that Jimmy's performance this week is an annual event. Maybe age is becoming a factor in his case. It's a real shame the way Finn's progress has stalled. If he'd been handled properly, he'd be just what this team is lacking.
 
wpdavid

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
harsh.ag said:
Monstrous schedule for next year. England are going to need a big squad.
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You're not kidding. The one-day schedule looks massive: 7 in SL, a triangular tournament in Aus and then the WC. All this before the tour of the WI and the English summer tests against NZ and Aus. If we want Broad and Anderson in any sort of shape next summer, we should be calling time on their oneday careers.
 
Swingpanzee

Swingpanzee

International Regular
Best way to resolve this matter. Either side will look like a massive pack of whingers if they complain, given that both go free.
 
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