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***Official*** New Zealand in the West Indies 2014

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Anything over 300 is going to be difficult for the Windies With their tail. Unless the pitch starts playing up I would Back the Windies to chase down 250 though and Fairly comfortably
 

Swingpanzee

International Regular
If WI bat like they did and NZ bowl like they did in the first innings, I predict a target of 318+ will be hard to chase.
 

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
All it takes is one big innings from the top 4, Chanders to do his thing before Ramdin and the tail to do their thing and 300 is very chase-able.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
All it takes is one big innings from the top 4, Chanders to do his thing before Ramdin and the tail to do their thing and 300 is very chase-able.
You are of course correct.

I think the people who are setting their sites on 250 or even 200 are just basing on it how many runs we can score from here realistically.

BMac is out of form (but improving as the series goes on) , and Latham and Taylor are already out.

Would love to have a 350 lead - I will just be shocked if we score that many on a wearing pitch when we are effectively 99-3.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Tail starts at 7 though. A few quick wickets at any point, or even just solid chipping away, and things look pretty bad for them.

Playing 5 bowlers might cost them 30-40 runs on average.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
It will depend on which NZ bowling lineup turns up. If the NZ bowlers of day 1-2 show-up, then 350 won't be safe. If the NZ bowlers of day 3 arrive, then I'd back us to defend 250. But NZ need a big enough score to make Gayle hesitate about going all-in with the T20 bull****. Anything under 200, and Gayle will be able to swipe away, knowing that it won't matter hugely if he gets out early. But a score of 250+ will force Gayle to be more circumspect which - given the way he's been batting of late - suits NZ just fine.
 

Days of Grace

International Captain
When looking to set a target, I always like it when we have enough on the board to allow us two cracks with the new ball. We all saw how crucial the new ball was in our win vs. India in Auckland. As a sidenote, how many times has Boult got someone LBW with the first over of the second new ball? I count at least three so far.

Anyway, suppose West Indies score between 3 and 3.5 runs per over. That means we have to set a target between 240 and 280 for them to bat 80 overs. Add another 10 overs with the new ball, and you're looking at a target of 270-315, which I think would be good.
 
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WindieWeathers

International Regular
Personally the most i'd be comfortable with is around 260/270 and that would be if we're batting from around tea time today. And like i said already much would depend on Brathwaite. I'd trust him more than Bravo or Edwards in these situations..

Last time NZ toured our place we chased down 206 for the loss of just five wickets in 63 overs HERE ..IF the track stays as it is then 250 would be tough but not impossible. Clearly though we'd need someone to ton up.

For me the game is 50-50 right now...we get early wickets today then things get interesting...we struggle and continue to drop catches then NZ could take it away from us if they get beyond a 280 lead.
 

Swingpanzee

International Regular
I suspect Wagner's just playing word games there, 250 would be too less to confidently defend.

I think it all depends on how the first session pans out. NZ are scoring relatively quickly (3.6 RPO), so if they don't lose (m)any wickets and keep at about that rate they can get about 100 runs or so. If Baz or Jimmy decide to accelerate and Southee successfully hoicks a few, we could get to a sizeable lead such as 330 or so. Either way, I guess the best approach would be to not lose wickets and bat till about tea or just after tea, and then give the bowlers about 3.5 overs to have a go and win the thing.
 
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Days of Grace

International Captain
I suspect Wagner's just playing word games there, 250 would be too less to confidently defend.

I think it all depends on how the first session pans out. NZ are scoring relatively quickly (3.6 RPO), so if they don't lose (m)any wickets and keep at about that rate they can get about 100 runs or so. If Baz or Jimmy decide to accelerate and Southee successfully hoicks a few, we could get to a sizeable lead such as 330 or so. Either way, I guess the best approach would be to not lose wickets and bat till about tea or just after tea, and then give the bowlers about 3.5 overs to have a go and win the thing.
You're really rating Southee and Boult here!

Haha, yeah, 3 and a half sessions should be enough, once would think. Ideally, 10 overs tonight with the new ball and then start with Southee and Boult again in the morning. If we batted 80 overs today, I'd imagine our lead would be near 340. That's the ideal situation for me.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Think N.Z. are ahead at the moment but the first session will be crucial for both sides.

Outside looking very hazy but doesn't look like immediate threat of rain.

As bad as the shillingford decision looked before the match, it's looking worse and worse as the match progresses.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
NZ ahead for me. Windies fielding hasnt Been great and they just dont have enoigh batsmen to chase anything substantial down.
 

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