***Official*** New Zealand in the West Indies 2014

[WindieWeathers]

Haha, which is exactly our point isn't it? Sometimes bad decisions get made by the umpires and you just have the cop them. But coming to the conclusion that a bad decision going against you is a part of some grand conspiracy against your side, and then writing off bad calls against the opposition as "50:50" is poor.

Seriously, here are the highlights of day 3 of the Dunedin test. The disputed call occurs around the 1:45 mark. Are you seriously telling me that the ball didn't hit the wristband of his glove?

VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: Day 3, New Zealand Vs West Indies, 1st Test, Dunedin 2013 - Story - 3 Sport - 3 News

Look i've named FOUR blatantly bad decisions by the 3rd umpire that's occured against us..

1. Roach given out even though DRS said he didn't hit the ball vs Australia

2. Clark decision reversed even though the on-field umpire gave him out and there was no clear evidence to suggest he was wrong

3. Pujara not given out despite clear evidence he was caught

4. Latham not given out despite clear evidence that part of Taylor's foot was behind the line

If it was a one off then fair enough..hell two times i wouldn't be crowing that much...but four seperate incidents take the biscuit and i don't see 3rd umpire decisions like this going against any other nation so regularly.

The Brathwaite call yesterday was nothing...i moaned about Shiv but like i said i didn't lump it in with the 3rd umpire decisions i merely said i thought it was a poor decision.

 

[Zinzan]

Yeah i said Kraigg can be another shiv and ASKED if Narine COULD become an ATG...you're welcome to try and sue me .

From your OP of that thread.

I believe he can be another Ajmal in the test format...and if that turns out to be true then he just might be able to cling onto Murali and Warne's coattails one day..it will be a big task, but he has the talent to put his name alongside those two as a spinner who made a massive impact in his generation imo.

Fair to say you're do more than just simply asking the question isn't it? Comparisons with Warne and Murali? Really?

 

[hendrix]

Allow me a bit of WindieWeathering:

Tom Latham will be NZ's best opening batsman to date.

 

[Bahnz]

Wow 4 bad decisions in two and a half years. Poor little WI, why is the world always out to get them?

Seriously, we're now 5 tests into a 6 test series, and WI have - at the absolute worst - benefitted as much as they have been hurt by umpiring bloopers. It's time to give it a rest.

 

[91Jmay]

As with anyone who sees a conspiracy in every bad decision, I first ask them why. Why would 3rd umpires around the world be biased against the West Indies?

That Bravo decision is a stinker. Clearly clipped his wristband.

 

[WindieWeathers]

From your OP of that thread.



Fair to say you're do more than just simply asking the question isn't it? Comparisons with Warne and Murali? Really?

Yep i expressed an opinion on what i thought a player COULD achieve...what is wrong with that?

 

[91Jmay]

Yep i expressed an opinion on what i thought a player COULD achieve...what is wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with it per ser, just ridiculous when you compare a bloke taking wickets at 40 to two of the best bowlers ever. I mean, can he have more than one good test match first?

 

[Zinzan]

Yep i expressed an opinion on what i thought a player COULD achieve...what is wrong with that?

Nothing provided you don't get all defensive & call it baiting when such outrageous statements are simply paraphrased back to you.

 

[Hurricane]

Nothing provided you don't get all defensive & call it baiting when such outrageous statements are simply paraphrased back to you.

Your views on WindieWeathers are noted. Can we get back to discussing Rutherford's technique now?

 

[WindieWeathers]

Nothing wrong with it per ser, just ridiculous when you compare a bloke taking wickets at 40 to two of the best bowlers ever. I mean, can he have more than one good test match first?

Actually i compared him to Ajmal...but people see what they want to see.

 

[Hurricane]

He's weak off his hip area; he doesn't really have a leg glance or much onside game to speak of.

He's loose outside off stump and tries to drive or cut anything even if it's not full or short enough for it. He's actually quite good at these shots, so I don't mind them too much, but since he has no onside game he plays them way too often and gets out easily.

I want to examine his technique more. Lets face it Sehwag threw his bat more at deliveries out side his off stump than Son of Ken does but he executed more often.

I think Hamish is playing away from his body a bit and needs to bring his back foot over towards the ball as well as his front foot.

I have been watching that Mark Waugh onside shot footage that Robelinda posted. You can clearly see he adjusts his back foot when playing front foot shots. I reckon you should do that to off side shots if you can too.

 

[Howsie]

Yep i expressed an opinion on what i thought a player COULD achieve...what is wrong with that?

Perhaps it has something to do with 50 percent of your posts talking up a young West Indian. I mean take this post for example;

I think the batting is gonna be brilliant over the next 5 years or so G_S, Brathwaite, Barath, Jonathan Carter, Chesney Hughes, Darren Bravo look really good, and there's another 19 year old kid who just won the Caribbean T20 cup for Guyana yesterday named Jonathan Foo who looks special too, bowlers such as Jason Holder and Delorn Johnson look like having good futures along with Leggy Devendra Bishoo who i think will make the squad for Sri-lanka after his outstanding performances for Guyana of late, the future looks bright indeed .

You made that post four years ago, and aside from Bravo, and now Brathwaite who has just come back into the team, who are these people? I mean it doesn't even look like Foo had a career worth speaking of and here he was a special talent who was going to change the fortunes of the West Indian team. Six months later and it's rinse and repeat, you rattle off half a dozen new young players and proclaim they'll lead West Indies back to glory.

 

[Hurricane]

This thread is FUBAR atm

 

[Bahnz]

Perhaps it has something to do with 50 percent of your posts talking up a young West Indian. I mean take this post for example;

You made that post four years ago, and aside from Bravo, and now Brathwaite who has just come back into the team, who are these people? I mean it doesn't even look like Foo had a career worth speaking of and here he was a special talent who was going to change the fortunes of the West Indian team. Six months later and it's rinse and repeat, you rattle off half a dozen new young players and proclaim they'll lead West Indies back to glory.

Pretty rich coming from the guy who advocated for Brent Arnel over Iain O'Brien.

 

[Hurricane]

Pretty rich coming from the guy who advocated for Brent Arnel over Iain O'Brien.

And who stuck up for Anton Devcich's selection (based on his stats iirc)

 

[hendrix]

I want to examine his technique more. Lets face it Sehwag threw his bat more at deliveries out side his off stump than Son of Ken does but he executed more often.

Yes, I agree, which is why I clarified by saying that it's not inherently a problem. The problem is that it's pretty much his only scoring area. This is also reflected by how difficult he finds it to rotate the strike.

He needs to develop a better all-round game.

 

[Flem274*]

Another evening, another round of WW v the world.

Unlike the test match, I'm not sure who is winning the evening polite discussion atm.

 

[Hurricane]

Yes, I agree, which is why I clarified by saying that it's not inherently a problem. The problem is that it's pretty much his only scoring area. This is also reflected by how difficult he finds it to rotate the strike.

He needs to develop a better all-round game.

Agreed - but it is sad that for a one dimensional player he seems to mis-execute so many shots in his strength area.

 

[Flem274*]

It's not that he doesn't execute them per se - when they're there to hit (or even when they're only sort of there to hit) he nails them.

when they're blatantly not there to hit he tries anyway, which is the problem.

 

[Hurricane]

It's not that he doesn't execute them per se - when they're there to hit (or even when they're only sort of there to hit) he nails them.

when they're blatantly not there to hit he tries anyway, which is the problem.

see my point about Sehwag -
Interviewer: So Virender why don't you ever leave the ball
Sehwag: Leaves are a waste of time.

Sehwag was a shot a ball outside off stump. Why can't Son of Ken get away with the same license. IIRC Sehwag only defended if you cramped him for room right on off stump.

I am only partly serious as Sehwag was a freak and no one should be compared to him. However (I will make a point anyway to change the topic so we are discussing cricket) there are balls I see him snicking which I think he could have at least got half a bat on and smeared away through backwards point sometimes with better execution.
He also likes to have a little fiddle with ones close to his off stick and give catching practice.