***Official*** New Zealand in the West Indies 2014

[Zinzan]

Your views on WindieWeathers are noted. Can we get back to discussing Rutherford's technique now?

With the greatest respect, nobody is attacking the poster personally, but merely arguing/debating against their posts. You can discuss/argue about Rutherford's technique or whatever you like (as long as it's relevant to the thread & isn't a personal attack) and I certainly won't be there to tell you otherwise. If someone wants to constantly post what I consider to be outrageous contentious arguments, then yes, once in a while I might make an argument to the contrary - once again provided it's relevant to the thread. So if it's distressing you that much, I suggest you either ignore me and any others in the debate or alternatively report it to the mods... but don't tell people to change the subject when it's relevant just because you don't like it. Cheers.

Now ...Off to watch the Origin - Go the Maroons !! (now that isn't relevant )

 

[SteveNZ]

If it was a one off then fair enough..hell two times i wouldn't be crowing that much...but four seperate incidents take the biscuit and i don't see 3rd umpire decisions like this going against any other nation so regularly.

The Brathwaite call yesterday was nothing...i moaned about Shiv but like i said i didn't lump it in with the 3rd umpire decisions i merely said i thought it was a poor decision.

I don't imagine you watch every Test match from all corners of the earth do you? You think your side gets the worst run simply because your side is the one you pay most interest to.

That Bravo dismissal was disgraceful, so blatantly out its laughable. And as for Shiv, no batsman deserves a lick of leeway when they pad up, especially to a leggie in his case.

I'd be more concerned about your sides fielding. One thing completely within their powers and it was embarrassing in the first dig. Roger Harper could do a better job and he's probably 60 now

 

[Hurricane]

With the greatest respect, nobody is attacking the poster personally, but merely arguing/debating against their posts. You can discuss/argue about Rutherford's technique or whatever you like (as long as it's relevant to the thread & isn't a personal attack) and I certainly won't be there to tell you otherwise. If someone wants to constantly post what I consider to be outrageous contentious arguments, then yes, once in a while I might make an argument to the contrary - once again provided it's relevant to the thread. So if it's distressing you that much, I suggest you either ignore me and any others in the debate or alternatively report it to the mods... but don't tell people to change the subject when it's relevant just because you don't like it. Cheers.

Now ...Off to watch the Origin - Go the Maroons !! (now that isn't relevant )

You're right I don't like it and it isn't relevant to the thread at all. You are stretching the truth that it is relevant. What WW has said in other threads about Narine being an ATG has got no place in this tour thread and is only being raised so that you can harass WW about what you consider to be an ill advised thread. If you are not willing to amend your posting to a less conflict oriented style, which obviously you are not, then I guess I will put you on ignore and report you to the mods.

Since this will be our last conversation for some time - let me say to you - that you know an awful lot about cricket and probably more than I do - but you seek out conflict and are very aggressive as a poster. You ran off Martin Crowe from this web site by even being confrontational with a NZ test cricketer. If you didn't learn from that I don't know what you will learn from.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Perhaps it has something to do with 50 percent of your posts talking up a young West Indian. I mean take this post for example;



You made that post four years ago, and aside from Bravo, and now Brathwaite who has just come back into the team, who are these people? I mean it doesn't even look like Foo had a career worth speaking of and here he was a special talent who was going to change the fortunes of the West Indian team. Six months later and it's rinse and repeat, you rattle off half a dozen new young players and proclaim they'll lead West Indies back to glory.

Thanks for digging up my history...makes me feel all important. Anyway yes i made those claims and Darren has certainly come off while Brathwaite at 21 years old just hit a ton against an attack you lot have been raving about!!..meanwhile i think NZ already know full well what Holder is all about and he's already in our one day team and will be making his test debut this year for sure...he is afterall only 22 so my claims could easily come to pass.

Chesney= seems more intent on playing for Derbyshire

Carter= he's doing ok for barbados and the A-team and has been knocking on the WI senior teams door for two years now

Delorn Johnson= He's a very decent talent imo who is another who has done well at A-team level...one more solid first class season from him and he'll be right in the picture for WI imo.

Bishoo= won emerging player of the year award after i said this...may not have gone the way we all hoped but he's only 28 and still has time

The only one i got totally wrong was Foo...and when i wrote that he was 19 and taking our t20 comp by storm.

I don't see why it's just ME who gets criticised for bigging up prospects...after all i AM a WI fan so why not talk someone others here might not have heard of? I see NZ fans talking about other prospects too...this is SPORT..it's natural to be enthusastic about a youngster who might go on to do well.

 

[Maximas]

haha, who needs mods when you have Hurricane?

 

[Zinzan]

You're right I don't like it and it isn't relevant to the thread at all. You are stretching the truth that it is relevant. What WW has said in other threads about Narine being an ATG has got no place in this tour thread and is only being raised so that you can harass WW about what you consider to be an ill advised thread. If you are not willing to amend your posting to a less conflict oriented style, which obviously you are not, then I guess I will put you on ignore and report you to the mods.

Since this will be our last conversation for some time - let me say to you - that you know an awful lot about cricket and probably more than I do - but you seek out conflict and are very aggressive as a poster. You ran off Martin Crowe from this web site by even being confrontational with a NZ test cricketer. If you didn't learn from that I don't know what you will learn from.

On ya champ, hit that ignore button.

A massive Lol that I drove Crowe away when like many other I just simply didn't believe it was him initially. Funny how a number of us doubted it was him, yet you put that all on me. Anyway, I will continue to have good honest robust debate on this site without attacking anyone personally (as opposed to that drivel above) until I'm told otherwise. Cheers.

 

[WindieWeathers]

You're right I don't like it and it isn't relevant to the thread at all. You are stretching the truth that it is relevant. What WW has said in other threads about Narine being an ATG has got no place in this tour thread and is only being raised so that you can harass WW about what you consider to be an ill advised thread. If you are not willing to amend your posting to a less conflict oriented style, which obviously you are not, then I guess I will put you on ignore and report you to the mods.

Since this will be our last conversation for some time - let me say to you - that you know an awful lot about cricket and probably more than I do - but you seek out conflict and are very aggressive as a poster. You ran off Martin Crowe from this web site by even being confrontational with a NZ test cricketer. If you didn't learn from that I don't know what you will learn from.

Nice one mate...people seem to think this is 2011 ...i'm not falling for the silly games now, i've grown up.

 

[Zinzan]

haha, who needs mods when you have Hurricane?

Haha, precisely.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

So this thread has seen :

WW versus the world
Blocky versus the world
WW versus Blocky (was pretty epic ftr)

And now hurricane verses zinzan.

WAC(s)

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

And we (NZ posters) all used to be such a friendly bunch?

I think I'll head off and talk to wellalbidarned about Bressa Creeting Cake.

 

[Athlai]

 

[Athlai]

So to get back on topic from whatever dreary arguments had been going on earlier.

If Jeets was here I think we'd have trusted him to be our single frontline spinner and played Wagner instead of Sodhi.

Thoughts?

Is Jeetan Patel's family destroying the NZ cricket's fanbase? YES IMO.

 

[Mike5181]

I hope there's a cheese pizza there, Athlai. You'll be the next victim in this thread otherwise.

 

[Athlai]

I hope there's a cheese pizza there, Athlai. You'll be the next victim in this thread otherwise.

Cheese
Pepperoni
Cheese

 

[GGG]

What a train wreak this tread has become. Anyway we are definitely missing Wagner and even Anderson's bowling to a lesser extent, Neesham's bowling just isn't up to scratch at this level.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Still quiety confident TBH, could see them folding for another 60 runs. Get a 200 run lead then hopefully the wicket starts playing tricks.

What's New Zealand's biggest first innings' deficit in victory? What is the most we've been behind on in the 1st innings & gone on to win? If we win (huge if)m it will probably be record breaking. I expect WI to win, but this NZ team has started to surprise me in the last 6 months. I also doubt that the game will finish in a draw unless it rains

 

[hendrix]

It would be exceedingly epic. And you'd have to think they'd be very motivated.

 

[Spark]

Haha, precisely.

People don't have to be mods to call out what they think is **** posting.

I'd remind everyone, though, that that cuts both ways. Go after people aggressively because you think they're being dumb and you should expect to see similar in return. This thread has probably been under-moderated thus far (frankly, because most of us have better things to do) but that's not a license to go nuts on people you don't like.

 

[Bahnz]

At this point my expected outcomes for the match are (in order of likelihood):

WI win
WI win by an innings
Daylight
Daylight
Daylight
Rain affected draw
Daylight
NZ win

 

[Days of Grace]

What's New Zealand's biggest first innings' deficit in victory? What is the most we've been behind on in the 1st innings & gone on to win? If we win (huge if)m it will probably be record breaking. I expect WI to win, but this NZ team has started to surprise me in the last 6 months. I also doubt that the game will finish in a draw unless it rains

This one:
1st Test: Pakistan v New Zealand at Lahore, Nov 21-24, 1996 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

This is the only match that New Zealand has won when they batted in the 3rd innings facing a deficit.


EDIT: misread your question. In all cases, batting first or second, the largest deficit was -144 vs. Pakistan in 1993/94. We chased down 324 with Bryan Young and Shane Thomson scoring centuries.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63636.html