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You know what really grinds my cricketing gears?
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SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
Put it this way, to those who didn't care that Lara stayed despite being obviously out caught or those who didn't watch it live or saw the replays they showed a couple of times they think of that innings as a 277 not out... I don't see 277 N.O.... I saw... B. Lara out caught for bugger all........... Nothing I can do about it. I haven't seen a worse case of a batsman doing some innocent play acting ever since, I have seen some I thought were out from a nick behind but there was some doubt as the deflections weren't very obvious. Pity they didn't have hot spot back then and team referralls otherwise history may have turned out very different.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Lara was just taking out revenge on Waugh for this shameful act of cheating:
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
Well ...it was for me, I stayed up all through the wee hours listening to it on radio and it's still the only 199 I ever witnessed albeit the last half of the innings was on radio... somehow it happening on radio amplified it a bit. I did shake it off in the belief that oh well he is Steve Waugh so of course he will make some more double centuries. I think I see where you are coming from... after all 199 is an enormous score and surely that one more run means little.... BUT... the record books show it differently,, in fact it is the one great modern innings that has totally been forgotten by almost everybody... sort of like the other great forgotten score in test history.... the incredible 299 not out by Bradman.... no one ever talks about that innings either which is strange... just imagine the odds of a score like that... a million to one ?............................... What made it worse with Waughs 199 for me was that he holds the world record for test 90's... half of them not his fault as they were not outs... It used to drive me mad all the times he fell just short... I think he made two 99's in there.... he made 32 centuries, if he had Lara's luck he would have made 40. Despite being a very successful ATG I always felt he was unlucky many many times, he seemed to cop some real shockers from umpirse. I must point out that whenever an Aussie batsman gets or gets left not out in the 90's it drives me nuts. We Aussies must have made more test 90's than all the rest of the worlds batsmen. I never minded seeing certain players from opposition get out for a 90, especially if there team got one of my boys out for a 90 in that series... I would love to see a Kevin Pietersen type break Waughs record
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SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
I saw that game when it was on tv... how the frigging hell can you say if he could have known if he made the catch,, for christs sake are the Windies still crying tears over that crap ?...... I am using memory and have not watched your clip cos I saw it all a hundred times. Waugh was a fair player, I saw the west indians get away with so much BS previous to that I would have needed a computer to have kept track of it all. Calling Waugh a cheat was a bit rich coming from Richards. I can remember two different tours of the West Indies where the westindian crowd rioted and the Aussie players feared for their lives as a maniac crowd, pissed as neuts and violent.... both times the crowd saved the windies from defeat.... how is that for poor sportsmanship, they were getting beat so the crowd decides to go for ABANDONED MATCH rather than lose to us Aussies. The Frank Worrell trophy was cut throat right through the 70's till that tour in the 90's. We beat the West Indies fair and square.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Has form, tbf.
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
Now I just watched it... next time put a video up that I can see instead of that white haze... anyway as i said I remember it, Waugh collides heavily with the ground and has no idea if he caught it or not.... end of story, he asked the question, the umpire gave him out... blame the umpire for that. By this time the niggle between both sides had gotten very unfreindly, not surprising, it wasn't until the Aussies said, no more, we will no longer allow these guys to intimidate us. They indeed had bullied the Aussies for nearly 20 years by then. Waugh had taken 1000 shots to his body from Ambrose alone. I admire Ambrose for being an incredible bowler but he was the biggest fast bowling bully of all time, He was a scary guy, of all the best batsmen in the world only Waugh ever got a handle on him, the first series or two Waugh struggled just as much as every other batsman in the world but he fought his way out of that and wasn't afraid to stand right in his face and then belt him all over the joint.. it was no fluke, those last few series between those two Waugh showed his incredible guts and was way on top, no other batsman I saw do that to such an extent..
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
Pretty sure the only time I talked about both at the same time was just in reference to the unlikely moment when a 200 and a 199 was made in the same test. The thing about the Sydney innings was not about Waugh at all.
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
And you do realise that the Lara non-walk pre-dates that incident by several years ?
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
Well how was I to know what Lara might do a dozen years ahead of time ?.... Lara had just started in tests and i suppose his position was not yet safe as it always is for all newcomers, maybe he thought he could get dropped, Later on it is a one man team and he is it and he should have been setting a good example anyway, besides he was never going to be dropped. I will let it go... I only remember it when someone brings his 277 up..... I am 100 per cent Australian so I very rarely like any opposition test players, especially poms..... once they retire my feelings change and yes I can feel some love for most of them. Take Freddy Flintoff, never liked him as a player cos I knew he was a big danger so I loved seeing the batsmen get on top of him or when he got out, but now I think he is a champion sort of bloke... always knew he was but hey... he was the enemy. I couldn't stand Bob Willis.. love him now, awesome man, tremendous bowler.. but gee I wanted to see him lose a lot. Of all the "enemies out there I do have a massive soft spot for the poms, they are so much like us.
SpofforthLohman
U19 12th Man
That was given not out bud ....... ????........ I didn't hear the 20 year old say he caught it either. Must have been one of his first games for Australia. That looks like Border trying to pull a fast one to me too, AB is a legend and being a hard ass is one of the traits that made him one. I don't see how this makes Waugh a cheat at all anyway the umpire didn't give him out and no harm done. I didn't know Waugh was hated outside of Australia, most of my pommy mates have nothing but admiration for it. Maybe west Indies fans long for their good old days.. well guys you are just four decent fast bowlers away from getting there once again.
Jono
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wiff
First Class Debutant
. . . and a good captain, a couple of fantastic openers, a couple of great batsmen, a good all rounder, and a decent wicket keeper.
slowerball
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Cricket Australia facebook page
Posts a picture...lets say has to do with Australia winning the ashes or something, and all these indian people spam the photo saying stuff about how great Tendulkar was and that no one will match him....its like ffs.
Posts a picture...lets say has to do with Australia winning the ashes or something, and all these indian people spam the photo saying stuff about how great Tendulkar was and that no one will match him....its like ffs.
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That's every cricket page on facebook, tbh
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Fixed.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
The slow, creeping realisation that you're just not very good
Being unemployed, a lone session spent down at the local nets sending down solo leg breaks against an imaginary foe is a common pastime of mine. For me it's relaxation, although every ball is critiqued and there's always the surge of annoyance when you know you've lost your length. I've been doing this a few times a week, couple hours each time, for the past few years.
Next thing you know, you're in a net session with your mates and somehow the wrist goes limp, the shoulder drops and you spray it under pressure. And the good balls? The line, length and flight is perfect. They just don't turn. That's right, I'm a leggie who struggles with lateral spin. They bounce wickedly sometimes but I get found out early enough. All you need to do is charge.
Having a bat, I'm castled half a dozen times, twice by this bloke bowling textbook outswingers. A few good off-drives against the part-timers starkly juxtaposes against the sweaty toil you went through bowling at the same bloke to get a borderline stumpng after he started slogging you out of boredom.
The swing bowler tries a leggie as the session ends. He gets it to drift in and jag away - viciously - without the least effort or warm-up. I would give my firstborn to bowl with such turn, bite, but most of all - nonchalance. I've spent years rationalising to myself that my balls would surely turn more on a turf deck. This bloke doesn't need that reassurance as he rips it at right angles.
At the end of the day, I've been working my craft for years, and the solitude blinds me to the fact that blokes who wouldn't qualify for grade cricket can and will still whomp you off the park.
I'll still go down, find an empty net, and bowl my leggies.
But from what I've seen, not many teams would have a use for them. And that's depressing.
Being unemployed, a lone session spent down at the local nets sending down solo leg breaks against an imaginary foe is a common pastime of mine. For me it's relaxation, although every ball is critiqued and there's always the surge of annoyance when you know you've lost your length. I've been doing this a few times a week, couple hours each time, for the past few years.
Next thing you know, you're in a net session with your mates and somehow the wrist goes limp, the shoulder drops and you spray it under pressure. And the good balls? The line, length and flight is perfect. They just don't turn. That's right, I'm a leggie who struggles with lateral spin. They bounce wickedly sometimes but I get found out early enough. All you need to do is charge.
Having a bat, I'm castled half a dozen times, twice by this bloke bowling textbook outswingers. A few good off-drives against the part-timers starkly juxtaposes against the sweaty toil you went through bowling at the same bloke to get a borderline stumpng after he started slogging you out of boredom.
The swing bowler tries a leggie as the session ends. He gets it to drift in and jag away - viciously - without the least effort or warm-up. I would give my firstborn to bowl with such turn, bite, but most of all - nonchalance. I've spent years rationalising to myself that my balls would surely turn more on a turf deck. This bloke doesn't need that reassurance as he rips it at right angles.
At the end of the day, I've been working my craft for years, and the solitude blinds me to the fact that blokes who wouldn't qualify for grade cricket can and will still whomp you off the park.
I'll still go down, find an empty net, and bowl my leggies.
But from what I've seen, not many teams would have a use for them. And that's depressing.
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