The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

The Battlers Prince · Nov 21, 2013

smalishah84 said:
how can you have an excitement Xi and not have wasim akram in it?

I did think about it, but in place of who? Others were Sobers, Jones, Symonds, Jayasuriya. Only have eleven places :blink:

smash84 · Nov 21, 2013

schearzie said:
Excitement XI
1. Sanath Jayasuriya
2.Virendar Sehvag
3.Viv Richards
4.Brian Lara
5.Kevin Pieterson
6.Adam Gilchrist
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Jeff Thomson
9.Michael Holding
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Allan Donald

You can definitely kick Afridi out of that team unless you want to make it exciting only for the oppositon

The Battlers Prince · Nov 21, 2013

smalishah84 said:
You can definitely kick Afridi out of that team unless you want to make it exciting only for the oppositon

has the highest strike rate of anyone since they started to be recorded. Wasim would add to the bowling but I'm happy with the ones I've chosen there. Other bowlers possible, Spofforth or Bond or Chris Cairns who could slog it similarly to Wasim?
I won't deny though, he was a very exciting guy to watch, I just didn't chose him for my side.

Red · Nov 22, 2013

Excitement XI All Time

Victor Trumper
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Shane Warne
Frank Tyson
Jeff Thomson
Wasim Akram

The Sean · Nov 22, 2013

Monk said:
Excitement XI All Time

Victor Trumper
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Shane Warne
Frank Tyson
Jeff Thomson
Wasim Akram

Two serious mistakes:

First, you've picked twelve players.

Second, none of those twelve players are Keith Miller.

Red · Nov 22, 2013

Right you are on both counts....

Victor Trumper
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Keith Miller
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Shane Warne
Jeff Thomson

The Sean · Nov 22, 2013

Good man.

Red · Nov 22, 2013

And as ever, I bat Miller in his correct spot.

The Battlers Prince · Nov 22, 2013

Monk said:
And as ever, I bat Miller in his correct spot.

Great side, and never ever any lower than 6 for Miller, but of course 5 is his spot.

MartinB · Nov 22, 2013

Monk said:
Right you are on both counts....

Victor Trumper
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Brian Lara
Keith Miller
Garry Sobers
Adam Gilchrist
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Shane Warne
Jeff Thomson

Suggest Jack Gregory, he is difficult to rate because of a bad knee injury mid career. Before the knee injury he was an opening Fast Bowler and batted 5 -> 8. After the injury he batted 1->3 (with out great success) and did a bit of bowling.

Jack Gregory's figure prior to the Knee injury:
Batting: 48 average
Bowling: 25.

Gregory held the record for **fastest century** for 60 years and still holds the record for the most catch's by a non-wicket keeper (15) in a 5 test series.

harsh.ag · Nov 30, 2013

Some Indian Domestic XIs:

Mumbai

Sunil Gavaskar
Vijay Merchant

Dilip Vengsarkar
Sachin Tendulkar
Polly Umrigar (c)

Dattu Phadkar
Naren Tamhane +

Ajit Agarkar
Zaheer Khan
Padmakar Shivalkar
Subhash Gupte

12th Man: The one and only Eknath Solkar. Vijay Merchant closest to the squad.

Karnataka

Roger Binny
VS Vijay Kumar

Rahul Dravid (c)
Gundappa Viswanath
Robin Uthappa
Brijesh Patel

Syed Kirmani +

Anil Kumble
Javagal Srinath
Erapalli Prasanna
Venkatesh Prasad

12th Man: Venkataraman Subramanya. BS Chandrasekhar comes closest to selection. Maybe him instead of Prasad. 3 man spin attack reunited

Kathiawadi

Hanif Mohammad
Vinoo Mankad

KS Ranjitsinghji (c)
KS Duleepsinghji
Cheteshwar Pujara

Mushtaq Mohammad
Salim Durani
Ravindra Jadeja
KS Indrajeetsinghji +

L Amar Singh
L Ramji

This is an unchanged team from Ramachandra Guha's article from earlier today.

Delhi

Shikhar Dhawan
Gautam Gambhir

Virat Kohli
Virender Sehwag
Mohinder Amarnath
Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi (c)

__________________ +

Manoj Prabhakar
Bishan Singh Bedi
Rajinder Goel
Ashish Nehra

Somebody fill in the blank please.

elmadrid · Nov 30, 2013

Excitement XI
1. Sanath Jayasuriya
2.Virendar Sehvag
3.Viv Richards
4.Brian Lara
5.Kevin Pieterson
6.Adam Gilchrist
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Wasim Akram
9.Michael Holding
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Allan Donald

kyear2 · Nov 30, 2013

Malcolm Marshall scores 92 and skittles out the Indian top order at Kanpur - Latest Cricket News, Articles & Videos at CricketCountry.com

kyear2 · Nov 30, 2013

Ashes 1911-12: Sydney Barnes and Jack Hobbs create magic at Melbourne - Latest Cricket News, Articles & Videos at CricketCountry.com

kyear2 · Nov 30, 2013

Shane Warne: The man who breathed life into the dying art of leg-spin bowling - Latest Cricket News, Articles & Videos at CricketCountry.com

http://www.cricketcountry.com/artic...e-shortest-of-stints-on-the-world-stage-30946

kyear2 · Nov 30, 2013

watson · Dec 17, 2013

Nice selection of articles kyear. I particularly found Lillee's stat's interesting because in a decade of great opposition his bowling average hardly varied - each 'trimester' ended at 23-24.

harsh.ag · Feb 5, 2014

The XI of Greats who did something first:

WG Grace - First great modern batsman
Virender Sehwag - First ultra aggressive opener

Don Bradman - First to make really big, huge scores consistently, not to mention the 99..., well you know.
Garry Sobers - Three types of bowling, plus the first really great left handed batsman
Ranjitsinghji - First to open up the leg side to batsmen

Keith Miller - First true all rounder all rounder
Adam Gilchrist - First ultra aggressive batsman keeper

Sydney Barnes - First fast spinner
Harold Larwood - First great fast bowler with bounce and swing
Frank Tyson - First truly ultra fast bowler
Muttiah Muralitharan - Unique, one of a kind bowler

watson · Feb 5, 2014

harsh.ag said:
The XI of Greats who did something first:

WG Grace - First great modern batsman
Virender Sehwag - First ultra aggressive opener

Don Bradman - First to make really big, huge scores consistently, not to mention the 99..., well you know.
Garry Sobers - Three types of bowling, plus the first really great left handed batsman
Ranjitsinghji - First to open up the leg side to batsmen

Keith Miller - First true all rounder all rounder
Adam Gilchrist - First ultra aggressive batsman keeper

Sydney Barnes - First fast spinner
Harold Larwood - First great fast bowler with bounce and swing
Frank Tyson - First truly ultra fast bowler
Muttiah Muralitharan - Unique, one of a kind bowler

Probably need to replace Murali with Saqlain as Saqlain was the first off-spinner to use the Doosra, unless I'm mistaken.

OverratedSanity · Feb 5, 2014

watson said:
Probably need to replace Murali with Saqlain as Saqlain was the first off-spinner to use the Doosra, unless I'm mistaken.

Think he meant how Murali used his wrists in his deliveries. Only wrist spinning off spinner ever, maybe?

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