The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
about time you voted for Imran
In a team I'd rather Imran as his batting is obviously better and other aspects as well. But just as a bowling unit I like Lillee's aggression.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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In a team I'd rather Imran as his batting is obviously better and other aspects as well. But just as a bowling unit I like Lillee's aggression.
kyear2
International Coach
Yes was supposed to be Wasim and Lillee or McGrath and Imran.
Honestly don't know which would be better and more effective.
Pragmatically Imran and Mcgrath makes the most sense as Imran brings his batting and McGrath was successful everywhere and so clinical, Wasim and Lillee bring a mix of genius and aggression that is almost unmatched. Lillee and Wasim had every trick up their sleeves and most of their peers named them the best of their times. So even though McGrath and Imran statistically all of the anecdotal evidence points to Lillee and Akram. Really tough to choose.
Honestly don't know which would be better and more effective.
Pragmatically Imran and Mcgrath makes the most sense as Imran brings his batting and McGrath was successful everywhere and so clinical, Wasim and Lillee bring a mix of genius and aggression that is almost unmatched. Lillee and Wasim had every trick up their sleeves and most of their peers named them the best of their times. So even though McGrath and Imran statistically all of the anecdotal evidence points to Lillee and Akram. Really tough to choose.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
I don't know if I'd go this far but he was definitely as good as any other quick bowler.
I think his all round skills take away from the legacy as a quick bowler. If he'd only been a pace bowler people would probably regard him better as a bowler.
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
McGrath > Lillee
Imran > Wasim
No brainer as far as I am concerned.
When are any of these ****s going to pick Murali in their XIs? Everyone misses out in one team or the other, but Warne is a constant despite having such a worthy contender who on many counts is superior.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, it's strange how thats happened.
A guy who is equivalent to 60 avg batsman and one who avgs close to 40 with the bat himself is overlooked in favour of other bowlers.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
bowling action factor is what robs murali everytime tbh.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Statistically probably closer to 50-55 at most imo equivalent. But I thought it was just about building a bowling unit? I'd rather have Imran McGrath (as I said earlier) if it was team wise. But just taking the 20 wickets it's not as clear cut I don't think.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
25 = 50
21 = 60
17.5 = 70
14.5 = 80
12 = 90
10 = 100
imo
He played on a bit too long (his career spanned around 20 yrs), so his net figure is by no means a true reflection of his abilities anyway.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I agree, as much as I don't rate him as a true all rounder, I think his batting exploits cause his bowling to be slightly overlooked.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Stat's are only ever indicators. Imran was a hell of a bowler, and very decent with the bat for his sides needs. But I just prefer Lillee, possibly because of only really seeing youtube and other videos when he was bowling well. But it's pretty much the same for me with Imran too, didn't really see him. Statistically McGrath and Imran get the nod, but I prefer Lillee and Wasim to join Marshall. Again though, it's a tough call.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
That's a great side, these guys want a game against them. I think it'd be good fun game
1. John Hobbs
2.Wally Hammond
3.George Headley
4. Graeme Pollock
5. Allan Border
6. Clive Lloyd*
7. Keith Miller
8.Peter Pollock
9.Bert Oldfield +
10.Fred Trueman
11. James Laker
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Not many bowlers could come in to bowl at the Richards' first up.Ahan! Laker is going to get his ass kickedThree lefties and no Lara! Beautiful.
That was my main concern!
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Steyn and Waqar bowling in tandem would be the greatest sight in cricket.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Excitement XI
1. Sanath Jayasuriya
2.Virendar Sehvag
3.Viv Richards
4.Brian Lara
5.Kevin Pieterson
6.Adam Gilchrist
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Jeff Thomson
9.Michael Holding
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Allan Donald
1. Sanath Jayasuriya
2.Virendar Sehvag
3.Viv Richards
4.Brian Lara
5.Kevin Pieterson
6.Adam Gilchrist
7.Shahid Afridi
8.Jeff Thomson
9.Michael Holding
10.Shoaib Akhtar
11.Allan Donald