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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Howe_zat
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1. Hobbs (57)
2. Sutcliffe (61)
3. Hutton (57)
4. Hammond (58)
5. Barrington (59)
6. Paynter (59)
7. Prior (43)
8. Botham (34)
9. Rhodes (30)
10. Trueman (22)
11. Larwood (19)
499
Edit: Turns out you can do it by picking Henry Wood (68) to keep wicket, which also means you don't have to skimp on the bowling. Bit of a cheat though.
2. Sutcliffe (61)
3. Hutton (57)
4. Hammond (58)
5. Barrington (59)
6. Paynter (59)
7. Prior (43)
8. Botham (34)
9. Rhodes (30)
10. Trueman (22)
11. Larwood (19)
499
Edit: Turns out you can do it by picking Henry Wood (68) to keep wicket, which also means you don't have to skimp on the bowling. Bit of a cheat though.
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Howe_zat
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1. Greenidge (45)
2. Worrell (49)
3. Headley (61)
4. Lara (53)
5. Weekes (59)
6. Sobers (58)
7. Walcott (57)
8. Chanderpaul (51)
9. Bravo (31)
10. Constantine (19)
11. Marshall (19)
502.
Struggled to find a bowling attack and proper opening pair. Worrell needed to fudge both.
1. Greenidge (45)
2. Worrell (49)
3. Headley (61)
4. Lara (53)
5. Weekes (59)
6. Sobers (58)
7. Walcott (57)
8. Chanderpaul (51)
9. Bravo (31)
10. Constantine (19)
11. Marshall (19)
502.
Struggled to find a bowling attack and proper opening pair. Worrell needed to fudge both.
kyear2
International Coach
watson
Banned
While we are on the topic of keeping - Paul Downton is the most miserly keeper of all time, conceding just 1.71 byes per 100 overs. Dave Richardson and Alan Knott follow to make up the top 3.
You don't hear much of Paul Downton these days;
It Figures | Cricket Blogs | ESPN Cricinfo
You don't hear much of Paul Downton these days;
It Figures | Cricket Blogs | ESPN Cricinfo
AndyZaltzHair
Hall of Fame Member
Kent has such a rich history of notable w.keepers
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
I rank them slightly higher because of their work to spinners. All the keepers mentioned were brilliant up at the stumps. It's much more difficult standing up than it is standing back taking quicks.
That's also why I rate Gilchrist higher than some people. Keeping to Warne is a very difficult task, for the most part he did it very cleanly.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Gilchrist gets too much praise for his keeping off Warne.
I don't really see how Warne, during Gilchrist's career would have been that difficult. He hardly bowled any googly's or flippers towards the end of his career - MacGill and Hogg would have been more difficult.
I don't really see how Warne, during Gilchrist's career would have been that difficult. He hardly bowled any googly's or flippers towards the end of his career - MacGill and Hogg would have been more difficult.
Days of Grace
International Captain
How does everyone rate Prior's keeping?
Because when you add in his batting, he has to be a contender for the alltime England XI.
Because when you add in his batting, he has to be a contender for the alltime England XI.
kyear2
International Coach
Was thinking the same today, not sure. His keeping has been greatly improved and he is tidy but he doesn't really have to deal with either express pace or a big turning mystery spinner. But he does a good job with the swing (and late swing/dip) of his seam bowlers and spin of Swann, and that is all we have to jusdge him by, and his batting really is a big plus.
Lets just give him some more time.
Lets just give him some more time.
Days of Grace
International Captain
Yeah, I was just thinking that with Botham at no.6 and a tail to follow, a keeper with a 40+ average would be very handy for the England XI.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Keeping to leg spinners is the hardest task for a keeper. Losing sight of the ball etc. So any leggie is tough to keep to.
I agree, MacGill would've been tougher to keep to. Big ripping leggies are hard.
I don't know if Gilchrist gets too much praise. For a while it seemed the consensus among a lot of people was that he wasn't a very good keeper really. I thought he was very good.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Yeah perhaps not too much praise, but whenever anyone wants to put the sell on Gilchrist, its often due to his keeping against Warne and I was merely suggesting that Warne wasn't exactly the hardest spinner to have kept against in the history of Test Cricket. I know keeping to a leggie isn't easy, but you've agreed with my small point, MacGill would have been tougher.