Mike5181
International Captain
Vettori is probably the best number 8 of all-time. He averages like 40 there, I think.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
I'll repeat some already mentioned but ideal guys (can bat a bit, and have a bit of a dip) for number 8 could be....
Australia- Lindwall, Davidson, Benaud a few of the keepers like Healy/Marsh, Warne. Guys like Lee and Gillepsie were capable up the order at times.
South Africa- Shaun Pollock, Procter
WIs- Marshall
Eng- Verity. Knott if Botham was at 7. Botham if Ames was at 7.
Pak- Wasim Akram (ideal imo)
India- Kapil could go that low, as he's their first picked quick. Kirmani/Engineer (if Kapil was at 7)
NZ- Vettori and Hadlee.
Australia- Lindwall, Davidson, Benaud a few of the keepers like Healy/Marsh, Warne. Guys like Lee and Gillepsie were capable up the order at times.
South Africa- Shaun Pollock, Procter
WIs- Marshall
Eng- Verity. Knott if Botham was at 7. Botham if Ames was at 7.
Pak- Wasim Akram (ideal imo)
India- Kapil could go that low, as he's their first picked quick. Kirmani/Engineer (if Kapil was at 7)
NZ- Vettori and Hadlee.
NUFAN
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If I had to pick a current XI playing on a pitch offering something for the bowlers I would go for the following team:
1..Alastair Cook
2. Graeme Smith
3. Hashim Amla
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Michael Clarke
6. Kumar Sangakarra
7. Matt Prior
8. Vernon Philander
9. Dale Steyn
10. Saeed Ajmal
11. James Anderson
Shiv Chanderpaul would be my batting reserve.
1..Alastair Cook
2. Graeme Smith
3. Hashim Amla
4. Jacques Kallis
5. Michael Clarke
6. Kumar Sangakarra
7. Matt Prior
8. Vernon Philander
9. Dale Steyn
10. Saeed Ajmal
11. James Anderson
Shiv Chanderpaul would be my batting reserve.
watson
Banned
You're right. Vettori is the most successful No.8 batsman (minimum 1000 runs) of all time. Average 42.29
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watson
Banned
Alan Knott is the third most successful No.7 of all time (minimum 1500 runs) behind Adam Gilchrist and Chris Cairns.
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I think that Botham and Ames fail to feature in this study because they didn't score the mandatory 1500 runs at No.7 to qualify.
However, Botham did score 2690 runs at No.6 with a moderately crappy average of 29.23. Chanderpaul is ranked highest with an average of 65.74.
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Hobbs
Grace
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Kallis
Gilchrist (wk)
Miller
Imran (c)
Hadlee
Warne
That number four position could have gone to one of many. Warne edges out Murali based on batting and fielding. In other news I really rate allrounders.
If I wanted to make a side to face another world eleven, then knowing I'd be faced with some West Indian quicks, McGrath, Murali, Hammond, Lara, Ponting etc I'd like to bat down to 10 with allrounders and have about 10,000 bowling options including four ATG bowlers. I'd back the relative lack of batting and bowling depth in the other side to be their downfall because my team just keeps going.
Grace
Bradman
Tendulkar
Sobers
Kallis
Gilchrist (wk)
Miller
Imran (c)
Hadlee
Warne
That number four position could have gone to one of many. Warne edges out Murali based on batting and fielding. In other news I really rate allrounders.
If I wanted to make a side to face another world eleven, then knowing I'd be faced with some West Indian quicks, McGrath, Murali, Hammond, Lara, Ponting etc I'd like to bat down to 10 with allrounders and have about 10,000 bowling options including four ATG bowlers. I'd back the relative lack of batting and bowling depth in the other side to be their downfall because my team just keeps going.
bagapath
International Captain
hutton
gavaskar
headley
hammond
viv richards
a.flower (wk)
faulkner
pollock
benaud
akram
davidson
Jager
International Debutant
Personally I'd put Swann right up there, probably in fourth at the moment for me.
watson
Banned
Wilfred Rhodes is problematic because he more-or-less gave up bowling during 1909 to take up opening the innings with Jack Hobbs. But prior to that he was a superb spin bowler and rated very highly by no-less than Victor Trumper.
I think that he deserves to be higher than No.8. Perhaps 4-6.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Good XI. We'll take you on..
Sutcliffe
Gavaskar
Headley
Pollock
Hammond
Lara
Knott
Wasim
Marshall
Ambrose
Murali
watson
Banned
Hammond's team would beat Bradman's team.
JBMAC
State Captain
What? No Pollock,Rice,Weekes to name but a ew
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Weekes who took seventeen First Class wickets? Really?
Ok below this is not the ATG Aus team I would pick
Hayden
Barnes
Bradman
G Chappell
Ponting
S Waugh
Glichrist
Miller
Davidson
Lindwall
Warne
But the challnege for other world teams is to pick a side that has an aggregate average that is over 500 (the above list is at 517)
Keeper has to have kept for the majority of his career.
4 bowlers have to have averages of 25 or under and taken over 100 wickets.
Hayden
Barnes
Bradman
G Chappell
Ponting
S Waugh
Glichrist
Miller
Davidson
Lindwall
Warne
But the challnege for other world teams is to pick a side that has an aggregate average that is over 500 (the above list is at 517)
Keeper has to have kept for the majority of his career.
4 bowlers have to have averages of 25 or under and taken over 100 wickets.