vic_orthdox
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Is Curtly Ambrose going bald, or is that a hairstyle of choice?
Either way...
Either way...
I saw no hope for the future and i was fed up of the status quo, then we had Gayle saying how he'd "get rid of test cricket if it was up to him"..so i think i had every right to question his desire and call for a change, since then of course a new set of players have risen up and with Gayle's inclusion now i believe we'd have a very decent batting order, for example..Doesn't that kind of show you that you're bit over-dramatic when it comes to selection in general though? He wouldn't have even been playing in Sri Lanka if it was up to you; he'd have been replaced with whoever the last bloke under 25 who hit 50 in domestic cricket was. And when he duly failed you'd pick the next one and so on and so forth until you had the Under 8s playing. Cricket is not a game where your output always matches your ability; it's a very inconsistent game by nature and players go through troughs and peaks. You just have to stick by your best ones and back then to get through the lows, especially given the big gap that exists between Test cricket and West Indian domestic cricket.
So you're basically saying that the same batting order plus the inclusion of one player (who hasnt played a defensive shot in about 18 months btw) would be a quantum leap forward?I saw no hope for the future and i was fed up of the status quo, then we had Gayle saying how he'd "get rid of test cricket if it was up to him"..so i think i had every right to question his desire and call for a change, since then of course a new set of players have risen up and with Gayle's inclusion now i believe we'd have a very decent batting order, for example..
Gayle
Brathwaite/Barath
Edwards
Darren Bravo
Chanders
Deonarine
Doesn't look bad to me, there's experience at the top and in the middle which balances things out perfectly, something we just don't have in this test series which has been costly, i hope to see it against England though and certainly NZ.
Yes, I fear for him the next Ashes too. England have just shown us, if nothing else, that they can take spinners apart at will.P.S. Lyon may have got a 5fer but it's a miracle how he did, without sounding bitter he looks so ordinary to me it's unreal, i fear for him in the next ashes!!, and if he's taking wickets at this level then my word Narine's gonna be a monster when he puts on the whites!! .
Well firstly Edwards isn't playing in this test and he averages over 50, secondly before this innings we'd scored 304, 461, 590 and 449d in our last FOUR tests, yes the second innings scores haven't been too clever but adding Gayle to that i believe gives us a better chance of getting even better scores in both innings, because lets be real he doesn't usually fail two innings in a row.So you're basically saying that the same batting order plus the inclusion of one player (who hasnt played a defensive shot in about 18 months btw) would be a quantum leap forward?
If you know it's in england why make the first point in the first place? Lyon's gonna get murdered out there, it's not even a matter of "if" it happens it's just when really .Yes, I fear for him the next Ashes too. England have just shown us, if nothing else, that they can take spinners apart at will.
(And yes I know it's in England...blah blah)
Nathan Hauritz got 10 wickets @ 32 in 2009, and Lyon is a fair deal better than him.If you know it's in england why make the first point in the first place? Lyon's gonna get murdered out there, it's not even a matter of "if" it happens it's just when really .
Don't be jealous because your spinners are average!!!.. ,You have a crap team, man. A boring team. A little perspective wouldn't hurt.
And your Narine isn't all you make him out to be. People like Mendis have had a far greater aura of mystery to them and have still been found out. Narine's played a bunch of ODIs on slow turners, and hasn't looked anything out of the ordinary to these eyes.
Even WE beat England in 2009!!.. things have changed now mate!! .Nathan Hauritz got 10 wickets @ 32 in 2009, and Lyon is a fair deal better than him.
The batting line-up was practically the same, and given the only relevant thing here is how they play spin, then, no, not much has changed at all.Even WE beat England in 2009!!.. things have changed now mate!! .
And what did the Indian spinners do when they toured England the other day?The batting line-up was practically the same, and given the only relevant thing here is how they play spin, then, no, not much has changed at all.
Heh no.Nathan Hauritz got 10 wickets @ 32 in 2009, and Lyon is a fair deal better than him.