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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Can see why from refs angle why that'd look in, he wasn't as near the line as that.

ITV not showing anything like that angle though, and using dodgy graphics to suggest at lot further out.
They've got to make it look worse so that it gives Harry an excuse seeing as he's the man we all apparently want for England.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that Spurs were rubbish and shipped 4 other goals throughout the course of the match of course.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Spurs have been rubbish for a fair while. I think it's more the truth came home to roost and they were overachieving because of the fixture list. I think I heard they've not beaten a top 10 side away from home all season.

Of course the fact that the run started when Fabio resigned means that the media will continue to make excuses for him.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Spurs have been rubbish for a fair while. I think it's more the truth came home to roost and they were overachieving because of the fixture list. I think I heard they've not beaten a top 10 side away from home all season.

Of course the fact that the run started when Fabio resigned means that the media will continue to make excuses for him.
Have just checked this out, the only curent top ten team they've beaten away all season is Fulham.

Similarly, in their 6 games against the other 3 teams in the top four they have conceded 20 goals, and only avoided defeat once.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Nominees for Players' Player of the Year and Young Player of the year are out:

Nominees for PFA Players' Player of the Year award for 2011-12 are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), Joe Hart (Man City), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), David Silva (Man City).

Nominees for Young Player of the Year award are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), GarethBale (Tottenham), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Danny Welbeck (Man Utd).
Van Persie pretty much a lock for the first one I should have thought. Not really sure who the young player award should go to. If Aguero and Silva had kept up their form throughout the season they'd be surefire winners. Chamberlain probably hasn't featured enough to really deserve it, Welbeck and Sturridge are both pretty ordinary so I'd rather not see them win it either. Bale massively overated, so would like to see Kyle Walker win it I think. Has been solid and dependable more or less all season.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Van Persie and Aguero I would think although do not really think of Aguero as a 'young player'
Yeah, I don't either. I think the definition of 'young player' for the purposes of this award is a little off to be honest. In my mind the oldest you can be and still be a 'young player' is 22. Doesn't seem right that Aguero, who will be 24 in less than two months, should be eligible for this.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
That makes Chamberlain's inclusion all the more strange though, seeing as by the end of January he had only made 2 Premiership appearances, and played 90 minutes in neither.
 

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
Four nominations too many for the main award. Van Persie and Daylight should be the only two names on the list.

Ox a bit of a joke nomination for the Young Player award IMO. A hell of a talent, no question, but given that he's started five League games all season and hasn't once played the full 90 minutes, his nom screams of being one for the England Hype Machine.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
The Ox had probably just dissected Milan around the time the noms were returned, so he was fresh in the voters' minds.

Great news about Muamba, anyway.

Less so ****ing Wigan have just scored. Great break, tbf, even if they got jammy with the deflection.

EDIT: Now 2-0, WTF?
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Nominees for Players' Player of the Year and Young Player of the year are out:

Nominees for PFA Players' Player of the Year award for 2011-12 are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), Joe Hart (Man City), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), David Silva (Man City).

Nominees for Young Player of the Year award are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), GarethBale (Tottenham), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Danny Welbeck (Man Utd).
Van Persie pretty much a lock for the first one I should have thought. Not really sure who the young player award should go to. If Aguero and Silva had kept up their form throughout the season they'd be surefire winners. Chamberlain probably hasn't featured enough to really deserve it, Welbeck and Sturridge are both pretty ordinary so I'd rather not see them win it either. Bale massively overated, so would like to see Kyle Walker win it I think. Has been solid and dependable more or less all season.
It would help if they looked beyond the top 5 in the EPL. Especially for the Young Player award, where the short list looks very ordinary to me. Personally I don't rate Walker at all - dodgy in defence and poor delivery in the final third. On the times I've seen him, anyway. Just the latest in a long line of mediocre English right backs.
 

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