***Official*** New Zealand in Australia 2011

[social]

Let's not forget that was Thommo's first bowl in months, was serving a ban wasn't he?

And sitting in a pub when asked by Channel 9 to join in as without him, the comp would not have been credible

 

[Top_Cat]

Where he would have been found anyway, let's face it.

 

[trapol]

That's ok.

We are all entitled to our opinion and the footage I watch on YouTube Imo says that those bowlers, including the ones in the 1979 speedball comp were very good bowlers but express they weren't

We are allowed to disagree and therefore let's just leave it at that

 

[Arachnodouche]

is it even humanly possible to bowl faster than an Akhtar, Lee, Tait? A lot of times we tend to romanticize the oldies for whatever reasons, but as rapid as Holding might've been, how much faster could he have been than the contemporary crop at their best?

 

[Athlai]

Atul Sharma bowled faster than the speed of sound. Some say his speed even approached the speed of light, which is why we never saw it happen.

 

[benchmark00]

For the record, Brett Lee was always a touch behind Tait & Akhtar on the speed charts. Lee & Bond were 155 tops, whereas Tait & Akhtar ramped it up to 160 on occasions

Brett Lee Lethal pace 160 Kmph Delivery VS New Zealand - YouTube

Brett Lee 160.1kph (99.5mph) wicket vs Sri Lanka 2003 World Cup - YouTube.flv - YouTube

 

[Flem274*]

Thommo thought he bowled 170kph iirc, so subtract 10ks = 160. sPEED guns back in the day were dodgy ****s, so **** drswing conclusions from that ****. hadlee was fast, haters can suxk it.

 

[aussie tragic]

WTF happened to the Aussie vs NZ thread

Bad enough that Aussie selectors are so focused on pace, without us adding to it....

...and while Lee was definitely more rapid than Lillee/Thomson post 1979 (having seen them all live), I'm not so sure about Lilllee and Thomo at their pace peak (i.e. before Lillee's back injury and Thomo's shoulder injury)

 

[aussie tragic]

That's ok.

We are all entitled to our opinion and the footage I watch on YouTube Imo says that those bowlers, including the ones in the 1979 speedball comp were very good bowlers but express they weren't

 

[NUFAN]

Given Copeland, George, McDonald and McKay have all been blacklisted for lack of pace, Butterworth is probably out of luck.

Blacklisted? Seems quite a harsh, inaccurate statement.

 

[Flem274*]

Why else would they be given a test or so each and be dropped?

(genuinely cbf thinking of another reason(

 

[uvelocity]

Junior wants to drop warner for christian?! And play presumably 4 quicks. Panel thinks leaving out copes is an aggresive selection and therefore good

 

[Flem274*]

Who is Junior?

 

[benchmark00]

lol.

 

[NUFAN]

Why else would they be given a test or so each and be dropped?

(genuinely cbf thinking of another reason(

New selectors would not blacklist Cricketers who are still reasonably young and playing First Class Cricket in Australia.

- McDonald isn't bowling well at the moment, he's not making many runs either. He has more chance of playing T20 for Australia.

- George was very lucky to get picked for Australia at the time. He's still only 25. He doesn't offer enough at the moment to be a Test player. This could change in the future, but I doubt it.

- Copeland is still in the selectors thoughts. They explained the reason behind his non selection, he just wasn't doing enough since the Test series.

- McKay had an injury plagued year last season. He finally produced good figures in his last Shield match. He just hasn't done enough lately to be considered a Test player, but if he finishes the season strong he has a slight chance of representing Australia again.

 

[uvelocity]

Who is Junior?

Mark Waugh, on foxtel "Inside Cricket"

- Copeland is still in the selectors thoughts. They explained the reason behind his non selection, he just wasn't doing enough since the Test series.

"Trent has had a lack of opportunities to push for selection in recent times."

 

[Noble One]

"Trent has had a lack of opportunities to push for selection in recent times."

This article is what you are after.

New Zealand in Australia 2011-12: Pat Howard, selectors test depth at their disposal | Cricket News | Australia v New Zealand | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[uvelocity]

This article is what you are after.

Well maybe this panel won't be happy to pick batsmen based on how they look in the nets. Still a **** selection for mine.

 

[Top_Cat]

That's ok.

We are all entitled to our opinion and the footage I watch on YouTube Imo says that those bowlers, including the ones in the 1979 speedball comp were very good bowlers but express they weren't

We are allowed to disagree and therefore let's just leave it at that

No, it is a fact that Thommo was clocked at 160.45Km/h. Like I said, if you know something about the tech, feel free to argue about the accuracy of it but that he was measured as bowling that speed is not a matter of opinion.

 

[Jacknife]

No, it is a fact that Thommo was clocked at 160.45Km/h. Like I said, if you know something about the tech, feel free to argue about the accuracy of it but that he was measured as bowling that speed is not a matter of opinion.

That was a few years before that world's fastest bowler challenge in a test match, wasn't it?

Tbh that world challenge thing, when you see Holding & Lillee getting clocked at 128 or whatever there first ball was, you know it ain't up to much.