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tbh, hitting the seam and getting bounce will serve Cummins far better than sideways movement on most pitches and he gets that in spades. Get the feeling he'll be a serial terror for lefties the world over for years.
 

Redbacks

International Captain
D Fleming said last night he think Cummins' approch is wrong, He loses momentum at the last moment due to the angle of approach. If he could straighten that up he might get a few more k's on his deliveries.
 

Furball

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Do Australia have international commitments next year that would hinder the likes of Khawaja, Cummins and Warner from getting a solid season of County Cricket under their belts?
 

howardj

International Coach
Only have a Windies tour which is in April, that's our only major committment I believe.

To his credit, Usman played County Cricket this year.

University educated, a pilot, a County cricket (rather than IPL) participant - he's a real 'goer' this man, really driven.
 

howardj

International Coach
Fox panned to a shot of all the Aussie WAGs over there last night, treating it like a working holiday no doubt.

Their presence made me somewhat miffed.
 

howardj

International Coach
Do you take your wife on a business trip? particularly after you've ****ed up an important business meeting (bowled out for 47)

Anyway, back to the cricket.
 

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D Fleming said last night he think Cummins' approch is wrong, He loses momentum at the last moment due to the angle of approach. If he could straighten that up he might get a few more k's on his deliveries.
Fanie de Villiers made similar comment about the release points of all our quicks last night on radio. Was very interesting, though he was speaking more about why thy swing it a foot wide of off stump but not when they start it on middle.

He reckoned he could fix Johnson in two sessions.
 

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Only have a Windies tour which is in April, that's our only major committment I believe.

To his credit, Usman played County Cricket this year.

University educated, a pilot, a County cricket (rather than IPL) participant - he's a real 'goer' this man, really driven.
heh, same thing although you'd be hard-pressed to call a BSc.(Aviation) an 'academic' qualification.
 

Athlai

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Only have a Windies tour which is in April, that's our only major committment I believe.

To his credit, Usman played County Cricket this year.

University educated, a pilot, a County cricket (rather than IPL) participant - he's a real 'goer' this man, really driven.
Jeetan Patel played County Cricket this year. Daniel Vettori played IPL.
 

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
For an 18year old Cummins looks quality, very exciting. He has a couple of technical issues, mostly related to his seam position (he'll struggle to get much movement with the way he sends it down atm). He could also do with more experience (read: More bowling). Raw materials though, my God the kid has everything. Could easily be the next great fast bowler.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
tbh, hitting the seam and getting bounce will serve Cummins far better than sideways movement on most pitches and he gets that in spades. Get the feeling he'll be a serial terror for lefties the world over for years.
He gets what in spades? He certainly doesn't get movement of any kind in spades atm, seam or through the air.
 

NasserFan207

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He gets what in spades? He certainly doesn't get movement of any kind in spades atm, seam or through the air.
I think what he means is he gets plenty of bounce, and if he made a some adjustments he'd hit the seam. For a bowler like Cummins, he doesn't need to swing it to be effective. He's more than likely still growing too. At his pace simple seam movement will be enough to undo batsmen, so he just needs to work on the seam position.

Something most people don't realise about young bowlers is that Cummins more than likely knows how to do this already, its just since he's so young he's still learning how to bowl with pace and accuracy first. Getting all these different aspects working together is the great challenge fast bowlers have to deal with, and it usually takes time to learn. He just needs to go out there and bowl. A lot.
 
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He gets what in spades? He certainly doesn't get movement of any kind in spades atm, seam or through the air.
Bounce. He got heaps, more than someone like Lee ever managed regularly. That and was moving the ball away off the seam from the lefties a lot, it's just harder to see because of the angle.
 
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Ruckus

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I think that was more to do with the pitch than anything else.
Yeah it isn't like the last pitch, that's for sure, but it isn't a road either. Think we'll see how much it is really offering when SA bowl.

Bounce, if I'm reading TC's post correctly.
I think what he means is he gets plenty of bounce, and if he made a some adjustments he'd hit the seam. For a bowler like Cummins, he doesn't need to swing it to be effective. He's more than likely still growing too. At his pace simple seam movement will be enough to undo batsmen, so he just needs to work on the seam position.

Something most people don't realise about young bowlers is that Cummins more than likely knows how to do this already, its just since he's so young he's still learning how to bowl with pace and accuracy first. Getting all these different aspects working together is the great challenge fast bowlers have to deal with, and it usually takes time to learn. He just needs to go out there and bowl. A lot.
Oh right, yeh I'd agree with that.
 

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