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Noble One

International Vice-Captain
Gould not doing his reputation as a decent umpire much good this over.

Watson. What a massive opener. One of the most unique cricketers of this generation.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Can't believe the cheating **** didn't walk when he knew he hit it etc etc (insert appropriate insult when Ponting or Clarke hangs around).
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Not at all similar for mine. Equal, maybe.
I meant career similarities or careers being equal, if you prefer that word. Not their bowling technique. Basically, what I'm saying is I think Lee would be equally as frustrating as Johnson if he played now compared to when he did.

Anyway, I don't think I've seen a worse shot by Kallis in his Test Career.
 

Woodster

International Captain
WATTO! Great review.

Woodster, you just mentioned Lee. Do you consider Lee to have been a better Test bowler compared to Johnson? I think they are very similar.
Yes I do consider Lee to a more effective bowler. I think on occasions he really led the line well, did concede runs due to his attacking nature, but had the ability to swing the ball, rough a batsman up, etc, more frequently than Johnson. Would suggest both are similar with the bat, but Lee certainly had the edge with the ball for me.

I certainly had more nerves around watching Lee bowl to England, rather than Johnson, despite Lee not having great stats against us. Perhaps it was a state of mind with Lee being surrounded by McGrath, Warne, etc, and Johnson not having that kind of support.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Real good change of length from Watson, no doubt surprised Kallis and it resulted in a poorly executed instinctive hook. Two overturned decisions is not good for Gunner, the first I could understand, as the Aussies didn't look totally convinced, but the second one should have been picked up.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Real good change of length from Watson, no doubt surprised Kallis and it resulted in a poorly executed instinctive hook. Two overturned decisions is not good for Gunner, the first I could understand, as the Aussies didn't look totally convinced, but the second one should have been picked up.
Tbf, I thought both were not out live. Watching without sound though if it made any difference to the second one.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Yes I do consider Lee to a more effective bowler. I think on occasions he really led the line well, did concede runs due to his attacking nature, but had the ability to swing the ball, rough a batsman up, etc, more frequently than Johnson. Would suggest both are similar with the bat, but Lee certainly had the edge with the ball for me.

I certainly had more nerves around watching Lee bowl to England, rather than Johnson, despite Lee not having great stats against us. Perhaps it was a state of mind with Lee being surrounded by McGrath, Warne, etc, and Johnson not having that kind of support.
I think the last sentence must play a part. Lee definitely was still quite a frustrating bowler throughout many parts of his career. Overall though, if I was forced to pick a bowler I would go for Lee over Johnson, but only just.
 

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